Please look at wondrous tail rewards.

[RiyahArp]

There's no real reason why you have to make getting two or three lines in it such a low percentage. The only worthwhile rewards are the gathering/crafting VI materia tokens and five slot gathering/crafting body. Tier VI combat materia is worthless, the level 60 ornate crafting is pretty worthless for the low chance of getting it, and the 320 combat gear is for one job at a time, and is obsolete for anyone except people who were into progression.

The best reward in tier 0 is a dragonskin map I can gather in 5 seconds.

It's starting to feel less like "here's some stuff for helping others by doing things!" and more like "why are you wasting time?"

[Vhailor]

There's no real reason why you have to make getting two or three lines in it such a low percentage. The only worthwhile rewards are the gathering/crafting VI materia tokens and five slot gathering/crafting body. Tier VI combat materia is worthless, the level 60 ornate crafting is pretty worthless for the low chance of getting it, and the 320 combat gear is for one job at a time, and is obsolete for anyone except people who were into progression.

The best reward in tier 0 is a dragonskin map I can gather in 5 seconds.

It's starting to feel less like "here's some stuff for helping others by doing things!" and more like "why are you wasting time?"

I think it's just fine. The three-line rewards are absolutely insane; BiS crafter / gatherer gear, and competitive, close-to-BiS gear for DoW / DoM. They shouldn't be easy to get. The two-line rewards are perhaps a bit weak, though. I'd like to see Creation tomestones in there (or, alternately, something more useful to purchase with Verity). Honestly, two Cracked Clusters from the one-liner are better than 500 Tomestones of Verity for me. The Tier 0 rewards are fine; the map is different each time, and is often worth around 30K gil.

Also, keep in mind - Wondrous Tails isn't "here's some stuff for helping others by doing things." It's "here's some extra stuff on top of the boatload of rewards we already give you for helping others by doing things." It's a potentially lucrative bonus, not the main reward.

[RiyahArp]

They aren't insane. They aren't BiS for crafter, they just save a crafter gil on one piece, with something like a 1% drop chance. The other piece is for level 60 5 slot, which you don't even need any more at that level. The combat piece is obsolete now and was only a money saver during progression; once 3.2 hits its outclassed. But all of these rewards really don't help people because there are far easier and attainable ones for people who desperately need them.

The thing though is they are incentives for people at 70 to bother with old content. Currently now you might as well ignore them, as they add nothing that the average person couldn't buy for 100k gil or get in an hour or play.

[Alisi]

They aren't insane. They aren't BiS for crafter, they just save a crafter gil on one piece, with something like a 1% drop chance. The other piece is for level 60 5 slot, which you don't even need any more at that level. The combat piece is obsolete now and was only a money saver during progression; once 3.2 hits its outclassed. But all of these rewards really don't help people because there are far easier and attainable ones for people who desperately need them.

What are you talking about? They are BiS for crafter and gatherer. Are you kidding? I dunno why the put the old 60 crafter/gatherer gear in there but the 70 is absolutely the best crafter/gatherer gear you can get in the game atm. The issue with it is simply that there isn't all that much to craft atm to induce a lot of people to get them over the other 320 gear, since they cost more, but that'll change with 4.2.

It would be awesome if they take the 60 crafter gear out and put in a part that'll lead to a cool mount or something. Like 1/10th of a cool mount. Something for people to try for.

[RiyahArp]

They are only best because of the materia slots. If you had the gil, you could pentameld them. I can reach the caps to craft NQ 2 star by not even doing that. And honestly, you're looking at about the same chance of getting a diadem weapon to drop than getting both three lines and the piece you want.

[Niraye]

They are only best because of the materia slots. If you had the gil, you could pentameld them. I can reach the caps to craft NQ 2 star by not even doing that. And honestly, you're looking at about the same chance of getting a diadem weapon to drop than getting both three lines and the piece you want.

but can you craft HQ with no issues and craft new items? thats what people want, and i for sure dont want some crummy NQ set for my gather

[Ilyrian]

The rewards seem pretty much in line with how easy they are to attain.
Not sure adding better rewards for doing basic content is the best idea.

[Alisi]

They are only best because of the materia slots. If you had the gil, you could pentameld them. I can reach the caps to craft NQ 2 star by not even doing that. And honestly, you're looking at about the same chance of getting a diadem weapon to drop than getting both three lines and the piece you want.

All that is irrelevant. It's still BiS. I crafted the 320 set while wearing most the starter set. The fact that I could do that doesn't mean the 320 set isn't BiS. You can heal a dungeon in the top gear and in the starter 70 gear. It doesn't mean they're the same damn gear. I crafted both my sets before the 5 slot gear were up on the MB else I would've opted for them. It makes pentamelding so much simpler. For a hardcore endgame crafter who pentamelds with Vs, they're so much better than the crafted version.

[RenAshdoll]

but can you craft HQ with no issues and craft new items? thats what people want, and i for sure dont want some crummy NQ set for my gather

Pretty much this, while the nq version is good for SB-ing, I highly doubt you can craft the current ala-mhigo set, much less next tier's combat armours with unmelded NQ.
And penta-melding cost a bomb; you can burn through a lot of materias on the 3rd and 4th slot and still get no where x 10. I will definitely not mind a gatherer piece or crafter piece with confirmed slots to save gil.

[RiyahArp]

sigh...it doesn't matter because the chance to get one single piece of that armor is 1 in about 450. My server has seen seven pieces of one piece sold in 5 months. This is something even if you care about it being bis you are not going to earn. You are going to buy it if you can afford it. 1 in 450, for something you have once chance a week for.

You probably had more chance to get an OP piece of armor out of the diadem, than one of these pieces. And even the 2 row is probably about 1 in 50. Everyone is talking about BiS, but it's about as obtainable as a diadem weapon, if diadem weapons could be sold.