The Aurum Vale

[Avatre]

Aurum Vale is everything BUT unanimous. I see just as many people who love it as people who hate it. Aurum Vale's situation is very specific because it's the kind of content in which there's no middle term.

Hi, I'm someone who is indifferent to it. Same with Toto-rak. Don't care if I get those dungeons because I know someone in the group needed it for whatever reason. Always best to just power through it all and murder whatever comes your way(hopefully helping those new to it to understand the dungeon along the way)

[Solarianna]

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Hello o/

I can appreciate that for sure. When we're talking about possibility of changes we have to talk in majority terms and general consensus, rather than individuality. So my point is that AV is very divisive. It's easy to find someone who hates it, and it's easy to find someone who loves it. It's hard to find someone who is mostly indifferent like you, but I obviously acknowledge that there's that side too (even mentioned it about 3 pages ago).

Regarding your second point. Unless you're with 3 very competent premades, you can't quite power-through AV, especially the first room. But I personally don't mind that. The reason I hate AV (have explained it 2 or 3 pages ago so won't bore you again with it) has to do with visibility and visual appeal. I have absolutely no problem with the existance of dungeons that can't be steamrolled through unless during favourable circumstances. But that's my personal opinion, and it's only worth for what it's worth. The point I was trying to make to the person I answered to is that issues that are based on personal preference in which both sides have a meaningful representation can't be treated the same way as issues who are unanimously (or near-unanimously) agreed to constitute a reason for change.