Eureka confirmed for 4.25 - Anyone else disappointing its delayed again?

[HoodRat]

For example, my reason for not raiding is that I hate content that requires statics and scheduling my life around a video game.

But...you don't need either of those to clear savage.

[Aethaeryn]

Yeah, and I'm sure SE dumbing down classes in SB to decrease the skill gap between players and decreasing the difficulty of savage in each iteration to get more people to run it is for the pvpers and raiders too. :^)

Most jobs weren't even really dumbed down so much as focus shifted to other areas. BLM enochian change is the only thing that really comes to mind as really dumbing things down, but for me it just felt like a chore to manage before. Oh, right. DRK MP management would be the other big thing. Unsurprisingly enough, the gap between really good players and really bad players is still huge regardless. Hopefully we won't get to WoW levels of skill pruning in 5.0. I think it's reasonable for players who put in time and effort to maximizing their play to have better results than someone bashing face on keyboard.

As for raid stuff, you did just get unending coil. >_> Only like 100 people had cleared as of the recent unofficial census, so I'm not really sure what your point is. I think savage is supposed to get harder with each new raid wing this time around anyway, but maybe I'm remembering what was said wrong. I do wish we'd get more difficulties for the raids than just the two we have now, though. With crafted gear existing, I don't even set foot in story mode raids other than initial clear.

[Matrinka]

I can wait, happily, for Eureka... if only they just release the first step of the new relic weapons.

[Rinuko]

I can wait, happily, for Eureka... if only they just release the first step of the new relic weapons.

Yeah but it sounds like its tied to Eureka so

[Maero]

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Except for there is the fact that weapons are always the last tier(04S as example) and clearly players are clearing it without the weapon. So saying those that do not raid don't need Relic sorry i do not agree.
Relic is never bis anyhow until the final stage and it only makes it relevant for a few months but at least it gives us all something to do. SB do far just seems lacking sadly
As for more delays, it is all ready late so unless they came up with something drastically different, what is the point

[Divine_Ultima]

Dissapointed but not surprised. Oh well just means less time playing this grinding for relic and more time playing Monster Hunter World.

[Mimilu]

Well, maybe if they stopped putting so much damn focus on PVP we might have real content on a regular basis...

PvP and Battle Recorders... (did anyone really ask for a battle recorder?)
At least PvP is actual gameplay though. >3>

[Ayer2015]

But...you don't need either of those to clear savage.

Its very hard to pug savage content given community mentality that exists. Pugs nearly always disband after a wipe.

[AxlStream]

Very disappointed. We got less content in 4.15 for essentially nothing now. Also the more time this takes, the more it gets me thinking that it might not be as much as new content as they told us it'd be and are trying to save face in a panic. Also, unless the content planned for 4.25 releases at the same time, they'll be late 1 whole patch cycle on what they planned on releasing on their original roadmap.

[KaivaC]

Its very hard to pug savage content given community mentality that exists. Pugs nearly always disband after a wipe.

That is not true at all. Every single one of my clears have been through pugs since Omega Savage released, and I have not joined a single static. I'd say about 30% of the pug groups I've been in have disbanded after the first wipe, but for the most part, we clear.