Dark Knight and Incoming Live Letter 4.2 on 12/15/17

[DaulBan]

I think that when it comes specifically to DRK and mitigation I think it'd be decent if they made some contextual changes to TBN for some of the party mitigation stuff. Specifically: If the target is another tank have the shield create a barrier that's the full value of a normal TBN cast on self. It might be argued that this isn't as good as Shake It Off (which personally I think is kinda bad but that's not what this thread is about) but it does give DRK a bit better of a tool for helping manage Tank Busters especially on the cotank. This'd give DRK essentially 'a better intervention' while still having the upside of giving blood back to the DRK.

There are still adjustments to DRK's pDPS and the cost of TBN to consider, but personally I think it's a fairly decent way of making TBN a bit more dynamic in use and give it a little bit of extra oomph.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I jumped on DRK real quick, to test something, because I actually do remember SE mentioning adjustments to self heals, and wanted to see if soul eater still heals for less than 1% of max hp.
(As I saw abyssal drain heal, being the better heal, even on single target)

The improved amount is roughly 6-7% of max hp now, and with DA adds roughly 1k-1.6k more hp (which is roughly the amount abyssal drain heals on a single target)
So at least they have that working more reasonably. (even if its still pathetic)

[MiniPrinny]

What exactly are you doing where Souleater heals less than 1% of your max HP? My Souleater heals for 2.5-3.5k of my 53.6k HP. Which is 4%-6%. And that's before DA. With DA it's 4-5k, or 7-9%. Abyssal Drain heals for roughly 1.5k or 2% of my max HP per target.

[Claire_Pendragon]

What exactly are you doing where Souleater heals less than 1% of your max HP? My Souleater heals for 2.5-3.5k of my 53.6k HP. Which is 4%-6%. And that's before DA. With DA it's 4-5k, or 7-9%. Abyssal Drain heals for roughly 1.5k or 2% of my max HP per target.

This was at Stormblood launch or it was the prerelease numbers, i forget which, but the heal at Lv70 was ~400 hp.

if soul eater still heals for less than 1%(even if its still pathetic)

I just tested it again, to double check the numbers, and it was a 3k heal, and 4k heal with DA.
But I also know I remember hearing about an update to all selfhealing on tanks (a while back back when they needed to make a lot of fixes to jobs, including things like WAR stance dancing no longer removing gauge), but at the time didnt bother looking into it, as I had already decided I didnt like how DRK turned out, and went RDM.

I know I wasnt the only person upset as the forums were in an uproar over how horrid self healing was on all tanks at the time, and how 1% or less of ur max hp isnt even reasonable.

[Launched]

I know I wasnt the only person upset as the forums were in an uproar over how horrid self healing was on all tanks at the time, and how 1% or less of ur max hp isnt even reasonable.

You were the only person because that was never true. Even back at 4.0's release, Souleater healed for 100% of the damage dealt at 60 and 88% of the damage dealt at 70, exactly how it is now. You probably made the mistake hitting a level 1 or 50 dummy, because you can't be healed for more than the current hp of whatever you're hitting.

[Claire_Pendragon]

You were the only person because that was never true. Even back at 4.0's release, Souleater healed for 100% of the damage dealt at 60 and 88% of the damage dealt at 70, exactly how it is now. You probably made the mistake hitting a level 1 or 50 dummy, because you can't be healed for more than the current hp of whatever you're hitting.

While its possible it was a dummy, and most likely was, as thats what I think I remember testing the changes on, I know it wasn't "just me" as there was a lot of complaints.
(heck, even now people still complain about tank self sustain, even as it is. But atm looking through posts, trying to find the comments. wish there was a better options to search for, that didnt bring up unrelated results lol)

[whiskeybravo]

As far as I can tell there was no mention of adjustment in the patch notes. They slightly buffed Souleater's potency in 4.05 but nothing regarding the heal.

[Crater]

Ahahahaha. They're actually going to do it. Not so much as a hint of DRK buffs, but they're already signaling that they're going to buff WAR again.

[Chrono_Rising]

Ahahahaha. They're actually going to do it. Not so much as a hint of DRK buffs, but they're already signaling that they're going to buff WAR again.

Yup, because people are flocking away from the warrior job. Mean while Dark Knights are definately being run at similar rates to every other tank.

For the next person to say, wait for part 2, we've been waiting for a proper response since June.

[Crater]

Ah, yes, I'm sure that by noon we'll have half a dozen "wait for part 2!!!!!" posts, completely oblivious to the fact that SE isn't exactly in the business of under-sharing with planned updates during a Live Letter. But maybe this time it'll be different!!

I'm sure we're also going to get a ton of people trotting out the old classic "It says Warrior usability is being adjusted! That could mean they're getting nerfed!!" from people who have either never seen a Live Letter before or haven't acquired enough basic pattern recognition ability to realize that that's what SE says when they're planning a big buff.