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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80

    Dark Knight and Incoming Live Letter 4.2 on 12/15/17

    With the upcoming live letter the development team has an opportunity to actually discuss dark knight and why they think it is balanced with respect to the other two tanks. What would you like to hear from Yoshi P?

    I would like to hear that Dark Knight offers less utility than Paladin and Warrior and that Dark Knight's single target DPS will be increased above the others so that there is a reason to bring dark knight into 8 player raids again.
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    Ari Dyones
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 90
    If DRK tool kit stays as it is right now: HELL YES, 'best DPS tank'! (no sarcasm, it's actually reasonable)

    Doesn't change the fact that the job isn't as much fun for me as it used to be.

    I hope for - at least a little - design change to make this job less depending on Dark Arts.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    If DRK tool kit stays as it is right now: HELL YES, 'best DPS tank'! (no sarcasm, it's actually reasonable)

    Doesn't change the fact that the job isn't as much fun for me as it used to be.

    I hope for - at least a little - design change to make this job less depending on Dark Arts.
    O.o Dark arts is what makes the DRK great though. I love using Dark arts if anything I wish they would add more MP / HP / DPS arts specially for when your Off tank mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Dark arts is what makes the DRK great though. I love using Dark arts
    It's not that Dark Arts isn't good (it is good), it's this excessive use of it. In HW it was just DA Soul Eater, DA Carve and Spit, DA Abyssal and - situational - DA Dark Mind.

    Since SB there is DA Sython Strike, DA Soul Eater, DA CnS, DA Bloodspiller, DA Quietus, DA Abyssal, DA Dark Mind, on top TBN (cost the same as DA).

    HW rotation was very good, you could actually fit every oGCD in with ease.
    Now you need to use DA every GCD in your opener. Very easy to clip.

    It just doesn't feel good or fun at that.
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    Soul Skyheart
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 70
    I'd like to be able to use another button please. DA SE is very stale when you have nothing else to use or no mana/BW is on CD. Bring back old Delirium and make it have a stacking increase healing buff up to a cap of 5 of 20% each that the next DA SE will heal for. Will help us fix our no sustain button as well as the bordem we have with spamming 1 combo all fight. Change the name of current Delirium to Essence Theft.

    Obviously fix our very bad DPS and mitigation too but that's a long list to include here.
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    Last edited by SoulSkyheart; 12-13-2017 at 02:04 AM.

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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    I think the solution to that points more to adjusting DA animation so it's a better multi weave ogcd (like Card Draw and Ninjitsu), and maybe letting DRK hold multiple DAs at once,

    that before, "Make DRK DA less." Agree it feels like both the bug and the feature of the job,
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Or have dark arts not fade on execution so it’s not as spammy, but then raise the mp cost.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Im also not a fan of DRKs DA spam atm, BUT I also agree its the direction DRK should have been focused on from the start.

    Im mostly a fan of 2.5s GCD, with oGCD attacks in between.
    Im not a fan of 2.5s GCD with often oGCD buffs between. (just not as fun.)

    But thats personal preference/bias.

    So I'd have imagined (in my own mind) that DRK was the long GCD, buff before attack tank, WAR the long GCD, with oGCD attacks bwteen, and PLD the quicker GCD (like MNK/NIN/SAM) of tanks (and technically lesser dmg, but gets the offensive utility to enhance other peoples dmg, to make up for its own.)
    (EDIT: Id also swap WAR and DRK around, if they used a different system for resources as well)

    But imo SE doesnt really look at how all jobs fit into their own lore, and how they would fit into other future jobs.
    They instead look at, how can me make this work within what we already have made, w/o changing too much of what we made.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Ignitis Vermillion
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Very unlikely they will actually do anything to DRK since it cleared Ultimate. Yoship said it the other day unfortunately.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I dont expect nothing from this live letter, they always save balance stuff for the letter before the patch
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