Liveblog JP - Yoshi P's 4.2 Housing Plan Discussion

[Claviusnex]

I only own a single house. Is it fair that some players were able to buy more than one? Yes it is. The system allows for this and people should not be penalized for something that is perfectly legal at the time they bought their houses. The only thing that isn't fair is the system itself. This is where people's ire should be directed. SE has multiple ways to fix the system so players that want a house can get one without penalizing those that currently own more than one house. They just need step up to it. Hopefully we will find out in a few days what SE proposes.

[Siniztor]

you should have added;

Im not gonna feel bad for following rules...How does it affect other people when you are being greedy?
and this, my boy, is why people bash on you lol.

See we will never see eye to eye, Im not being greedy, i payed to move to where houses were cause that was my intrest. The makers of the game have what call rules as long as i follow the rules of the game im paying for im good.. If any of my actions following the rules some how negatively effect any players then they need to bring that up to the game makers.. Were back to dont hate the player hate the game..

I pay $26.99 a month for guess what MY enjoyment ...I dont break the rules, ive work my butt off crafting n gathering to earn every thing i have in game and everything ive gave away im sorry you were not one of the 12+ people ive bought houses for..

Im not here to make sure the game is fair to everyone.. Thats the DEV teams job They decide whats fair and then make the rules

[Awha]

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I do not think people bash you solely for having more then one home. My FC mates including myself own numerous homes between alts and one man FC, and we rarely ever get all that much hate for housing. We get hate for different reasons but that is a story for another day. I do think the main reason you get bashed is by how you articulate your point. While you are right some do not agree, but most from what I can tell do not place the blame on those that have more then one home, they are simply voicing concerns and making suggestions as a means of alleviating the issue, and trying to make the current system as fair as possible.

Text and tone are difficult to interrupt, maybe if you came off as a little understanding as to why many do not approve of the current system less people bash you? While based off your input you do understand, and rightfully place the burden on SE, to those that are part of group that does not have though such a position might be seen as rubbing salt in the wound. Since end of the day everyone knows the only way to fix this issue is to make it so the servers can handle more houses, and we all know limiting houses one per server, with an option to share the dwelling will not solve much of anything. I think people simply want a fare system were at the very least they know each plot is owned by a unique account.

Not saying I agree or disagree, I just think you will get bashed less if you came off as a little more understanding. Though either way it sucks that people go to such lengths to bother you because of differing views.

[Siniztor]

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Not saying I agree or disagree, I just think you will get bashed less if you came off as a little more understanding. Though either way it sucks that people go to such lengths to bother you because of differing views.

Oh i totaly understand people wanting a house and as ive said many many times ive fine if they change the rules, as long as they grandfather multi house owners in since we didnt break any rules..

What im not fine with is people who have played for years saying im greedy when all they had to do is transfer to where housing was many servers had them.. If they made the choice not to move then thats on them why come after multi house owners Now.. Anyone who played before free transfers could of had a house simple by transfering..

This bandaid fix of taking away from people who broke no rules is laughable its not even a bandaid fix theres 72,000 for 360,000 people Thats just NA..

What drives me insane is i cant understand why the hate isnt pointed at SE, but most seem to wanna settle for this little fix for now wile they work on it.. Come on they pull in 10+ million a month... If people are this upset that they suggest taken away from people who broke no rules..You would think they be spaming this fourm with Thats enough SE basic math tells us you need to step your game up.. You advertise housing for all yet have enough houses for what 1/5 the population thats not counting any FCs

As far as me being harsh yes i am. im honestly that way irl in game and on here i dont pull punchs never have.But im not a horder or ******.

All ive ever tried to say is
1-Multi house owners have broken no rules, Taken away from them is wrong / Bashing them is wrong in any form
2-If there is a rule change Grandfather multi owners in (Reason see 1)
3- Se is where the hate needs to be 72,000 house for 360,000 (NA) people is not even close to being considered trying... add in fcs and you ever farther from trying

[Maoska]

All ive ever tried to say is
1-Multi house owners have broken no rules, Taken away from them is wrong / Bashing them is wrong in any form
2-If there is a rule change Grandfather multi owners in (Reason see 1)
3- Se is where the hate needs to be 72,000 house for 360,000 (NA) people is not even close to being considered trying... add in fcs and you ever farther from trying

1. It's true and you have my all support. All I do it's directing all my disappoint at FFXIV team mistake.
2. This can't happend. This would be create even MORE hate towards multi owners and I'm sure of it. Also this would be unfair toward any new players.

Situation is bad. After all discussion here I think that I already give a best solution for everyone in my opinion. Create so many housing that will be available for FC, players and theirs alts. It's a shame that they didn't consider the apartment reconstruction and they still didn't solve the gardening problem. I know their server problems and I know buying more / better servers it's not the best solution. Their really should consider instance housing. Apartments works fine, why not try something similar but bigger? Create "fake" gardens you can go from your instance house. I know that this solution could create term that the normal housing is "exclusive" but it's something right?

[Siniztor]

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2. This can't happend. This would be create even MORE hate towards multi owners and I'm sure of it. Also this would be unfair toward any new players.

See #2 was "If" they change the rule to 1 house per account. You say Grandfathering in wouldn't be fair to new players. You do relise (ive seen your post i know you do) taken away houses from people who broke no rules is not fair period.. So if they do take away cause its not fair to new players. Your trading what is right and fair for players who have held subs for 1,2,3 years (2 years here never unsubbed) for whats fair for what "might" come, a new player no telling if they will come or if they do how long they will stay..

I agree with all your ideas heck more then half of them ive mentioned in other threads to.

They wont solve this problem till the number of house is more then the number of active players due to fcs useing houses to

[Blackcrow]

See #2 was "If" t .... long post ... more then the number of active players due to fcs useing houses to

Well, according to your mindset it would be fair if SE just gave you gil for taking away your plots. Because it's in their rules (TOS/EULEA) that they can change their rules as they see fit basically and all ingame products are owned by them.
They would ALSO play fair, by the rules just as you did.
But when they hide behind the rules to screw you over suddenly it isn't fair anymore ? lol the irony....

[Siniztor]

Well,according to your mindset it would be fair if SE just gave you gil for taking away your plots. Because it's in their rules (TOS/EULEA) that they can change their rules as they see fit basically and all ingame products are owned by them.
They would ALSO play fair, by the rules just as you did.
But when they hide behind the rules to screw you over suddenly it isn't fair anymore ? lol the irony....

Yes according to Me Se could just take multi hoses away with no comp what so ever since it is there game and may change the rules when ever they please...Is it fair NO but its there game

But you cant say Player A you have broken no rules but were taken away from you cause now new players (player B) cant buy more then one house.. we need to keep it fair for them.. we understand its Unfair to punish you for NOT breaking the rules and being a loyal subscriber who was around back when we had enough houses for your server..But we gotta look out for what might come lol

If your gonna play the "fair card" play it for both sides..

[Ssmiley_Bjakkzz]

Hellluuuuuu

[Blackcrow]

If your gonna play the "fair card" play it for both sides..

I just did in my previous comment