I miss the old PvP.

[Guesswhat]

We can't even get 500 people to look in this section...

Looking at the views pr. thread, it's safe to assume that < 500 read them seriously. I was about to ask if was worth making a petition to bring pre 4.x back. We could even do it postal 2 style. But looking at the numbers it's not even worth suggesting it lol.

Edit: If anyone wonders what I mean by postal 2:google "petition postal 2"

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Oh I don't mean to discourage. I'd fully support any petition for a revision, and I hope any long time PvPer who feels the same would.

[SummerScorcher]

I'd also fully support a petition. Just throwing it out there.

[Araxes]

I'd also fully support a petition. Just throwing it out there.

I dont think that would help... The current "Version" of "PvP" is more Easy to balance for the dev Team (Although i cant see the Balance tbh). So i think even IF there is thousands of people telling them the old PvP was better they prolly still dont change it back.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

If it's so easy to balance, why is the balance so screwed up right now?

[Zojha]

If it's so easy to balance, why is the balance so screwed up right now?

In order to make something balanced, you first need to know what balance even is, what consequences that has for the game you intend to balance, then want to achieve it still and have the ability to do so.

There's a good chance none of that is the case for the team in charge, just as for many forum posters.

They most likely simply look at some internal data sheets for the brunt of their work (I surmise especially popularity statistics), occasionally get a mail from the forum reps that pass feedback along after translation and then simply adjust things up and down more or less randomly depending on the general direction.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Nothing sends chills down my spine like hearing "internal data" when taking about SE. After all, their "internal data" showed participation went up when they restricted chat.

You know, cause granting a 3 year wish finally and starting an event that was based around PvP had nothing to do with it. . .

[Araxes]

starting an event that was based around PvP

A ton of Glamours and a few mounts did the trick. It was a good bait to lead more people to pvp but to claim that the new system is responsible for more players in pvp is just..... not nice. The new PvP mode is already about to die on my Datacenter. Queues have gone up to about 12- 30 mins.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Oh no, I was saying Frontline Freelancer - the GC restriction removal we begged for for 3 years - did the trick. But in the eyes of others who weren't PvPing then, banning Feast chat and the GARO event was the big savior of PvP

As for Rival Wings, it's fun, but it's not without its issues that need addressing. If they're not addressed soon, people will just quit playing it. I enjoy it, and I want to play it more, but the current issues that take away from the enjoyment make me hesitant to want to bother most days.

[RiyahArp]

I don't think freelancer helped as much as you think. Being able to go in under cap, as well as the Garo event, helped a lot more. Problem with pvp is that for some reason, it's really hard to get 72 people to even want to do it at a particular time. Or even 24, 16, or 8.

This is an issue with other content, too. For the game's population per data center, things like the party finder are shockingly empty if you think about it.