That's how I felt. Like, I was just going to point out that sects are important because you'll likely find yourself kicked with other parties. And it wasn't like we were going to sit there long...5 minutes tops, if the duty didn't kick us out first.Honestly I'd kill for hands on advice like that when I'm playing a new class and fucking up spectacularly. I never understood the mentality of holding onto mediocrity ESPECIALLY when someone is willing to take the time to sit there with you and help you in some manner or fashion. It just seems like throwing a neatly wrapped present back into a stranger's face because the colors weren't to your liking.
So, last night, Raid Roulette. I (SCH) queue up with my gf (MCH) and we got Syrcus Tower.
Normal start, people greet each other and off we go. My tank, a DRK, had only Grit on and no Darkside. We arrive with the first pack of trash, then the guy grabs his own pack and doesn't stack them with the others. Meh, no big deal, but it certainly made me look closely what he was going to do next. We reach the first boss and another tank pulls. I see my tank in Grit and no Darkside again. I ask him "Please turn Grit off and Darkside up", then... the answer: "I DO WHAT I WANT", as I reply "Oh, no... one of those...".
My gf starts giving him advice on how it's mandatory for an offtank to have the stance off, as aggro switching is annoying for healers and pretty much everyone. He goes like "This is Syrcus tower, it doesn't matter", then he says "I'm level 59, I know what Grit does, as I am a tank". I raise my eyebrow to the point it leaves the Solar System and meets the Voyager 1 on its way out. I say again "Yup, one of those...". I tell him he's overreacting, as I was only giving him advice, but he bounces it back implying I was making a big deal out of it. No one else in the group said anything. I decided to bite the bullet. My gf doesn't at first but she gives up as well after a while. We clearly are in front of... "one of those".
We arrive to the next pack of adds, he starts turning Grit on and off constantly, mocking us, burning his MP in the process. I ignore him and we pull. We get past it and we arrive to the SECOND boss. Before we pulled he says in alliance chat "Remember to switch GRIT off!" mocking us even further. My co-heal stood up for us and said something along the lines "If you're not MTing, you shouldn't use Grit. Just saying". Then the DRK gives up and says "okay okay", or something like that.
We finished the run, the DPS overall was low but we cleared. Although a minor inconvenience but I was certainly pissed at his attitude. I comm'd the other healer, the end.
Last edited by Lilseph; 12-05-2017 at 05:54 AM.
Ok I need to rant because these people piss me off and I'm sure anyone who tanks has this person every now and then. I keep getting them and it's usually a MCH or something.
I do a leveling roulette and get Qarn and just say "haven't tanked this one before". So this Mentor DRG (it's always a mentor lmao), keeps popping sprint and using a DRG ability to get ahead of me and pull. So I'm getting really annoyed because I go at a good pace in dungeons, even doing rolling pulls, I'm not slow or anything. So eventually I say "okay i guess you can tank lol" But that doesn't stop her and she /comforts me. o.O
We get to the last boss and that's ok but none of the DPS kill any of the mythril verges so it's like a touhou dodge battle.
Please stop trying to speed run low level dungeons with randos?? I'm going fast as it is, play a tank if you wanna go for world first Qarn run
While I don't do this in DF normally, if I'm with friends(either somehow by chance - has happened a few times - or because we queued as a group of 3) I tend to ignore those and burn the boss if I know the healer can handle it....and the DPS can dodge.
Ah okay I mean it wasn't a huge deal or anything ^^




Given the amount of times this has happened to you I'd highly recommend finding a friendly healer to go with you for new dungeons. Whenever I was learning to tank it helped IMMENSELY to have the second half of the power duo back me up when players were being rude and if they refused to learn then we'd just sit and wait them out. Or the healer wouldn't heal them until they got the lesson. It might help a little especially given your horrendous luck. D:
I have one rule when healing. I don't heal stupid.
If someone REFUSES to dodge stuff, they best have potions/second wind/bloodbath/some form of healing. Up to three times of eating something I will heal, but past that unless the rest of the group took damage due to an unavoidable attack and I use Medica(II)/(Aspected)Helios - I don't play SCH, so won't go there, I will not heal them.


I play a slightly different ruleset. I'll give you a couple of chances, then I'll give you a nudge saying "Hey, you should dodge stuff" by means of Rescue. If that fails, you shoot down the priority list of healing (if I'm feeling especially petty, I'll even go so far as to make sure my AoE heals don't hit you, yes, I did do that before). When they die and they pipe up at me saying "Why didn't you heal?" I'll chime back up with "Why didn't you avoid the AoEs?"
Oh and even better, I've had people die to one-shot mechanics then blame me the healer for not healing them through it. I tell them it's a one-shot mechanic and that I'm a healer, not an act of god. They usually shut up.
White Mage ~ Sage ~ AstrologianBoi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing
As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.
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