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  1. #71
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    Leloa's Avatar
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    Lena Vales
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Then they should figure out a way to make it accessible for everyone. Not add in a housing demolition timer.
    I hope they come up with a housing solution in 4.2, and dump the demolition timer entirely.
    If they can't find an actual solution, I'd still be for dumping the timer.
    They should defo keep the reclamaton feature. Before they made that there was shit tons of empty houses getting dust, active players not getting houses. It looks like that again without the feature, tons of houses sitting empty and unsued, even in EU servers... Idk why you have a problem with it unless you like to take long breaks and have to check in your house every now and then. But this feature right now is one solution for everyone to have houses, now they just need to add that one house per server and we're all good
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  2. #72
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Then they should figure out a way to make it accessible for everyone. Not add in a housing demolition timer.
    I hope they come up with a housing solution in 4.2, and dump the demolition timer entirely.
    If they can't find an actual solution, I'd still be for dumping the timer.
    As pointed out already...

    Personal housing was going to be separate to FC housing...
    Possibly like the apartments we have now...



    But, instead of implementing it 'properly' where they were separate, they instead just allowed players to purchase the ward housing.

    This mistake will always haunt the housing system.
    There will never be enough houses unless something drastically changes.

    The reclamation is the only way to free up housing from people who are no longer playing or using their houses.

    Without the reclamation there would eventually be houses everywhere locked to accounts that were no longer playing.

    Their lack of foresight forced their hand into doing something they had not wanted to do at all, they had never wanted to force players to have to pay or anything else just to keep their houses.

    But, the system they made didn't allow them to keep that promise.
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  3. #73
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    i honestly think there gonna keep it off cause they have nothing coming up to keep players in game till what jan/feb when 4.2hits... Im sure most of us have noticed the dwelding numbers of players and it just gonna get worse as the holiday games coe out. people drop subs and are just waiting for 4.2. if they started it back up now alot of houses would go in 45 days
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    i honestly think there gonna keep it off cause they have nothing coming up to keep players in game till what jan/feb when 4.2hits... Im sure most of us have noticed the dwelding numbers of players and it just gonna get worse as the holiday games coe out. people drop subs and are just waiting for 4.2. if they started it back up now alot of houses would go in 45 days
    From a business standpoint, your reasons are actually why they should restart the timer. If subs are waning (I have no access to official numbers and anything less is just anecdotal) then it would be in SE's interest to dangle the threat of loosing your house over our heads in order to keep as many people paying until 4.2 as possible. Regardless of of how we, the players, think or would like SE to act, they are first and foremost a business and have consistently shown that is how they run FF14.
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  5. #75
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    Deacon Moore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Also idk what you're talking about here. You're kind of scaring me. :^(
    Housing provides functionality beyond just having a house. If all the houses are just dead space dedicated to a player that no longer plays that functionality dies. Housing items become vendor items, gardening crossbreed items disappear and with it the ability to craft things that require them. Changing your chocobo and training it becomes impossible, etc.

    It's detrimental to the game to have housing locked out for the current player base.
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  6. #76
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    Lahna Orora
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    It's detrimental to the game to have housing locked out for the current player base.
    You are right, but you dont point the real matter...
    The real matter is not abandonned house, but the fact not everyone cant have house...

    We want to have enough house for each player and FC. That's all.
    How could SE doing this? not customer matter, their promise not ours.
    But a solution is... inject less money in some project, and more in FFXIV? i mean... The cash shop + sub it should be many money no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerlana View Post
    You are right, but you dont point the real matter...
    The real matter is not abandonned house, but the fact not everyone cant have house...

    We want to have enough house for each player and FC. That's all.
    How could SE doing this? not customer matter, their promise not ours.
    But a solution is... inject less money in some project, and more in FFXIV? i mean... The cash shop + sub it should be many money no?
    I agree enough housing for everyone would be ideal and I hope one day it happens. Can't say more money is the solution. As your signature quotes show their professed vision for housing and what was delivered are 2 different things. "Server limitations" seems to be their go to for just about everything wanted but not delivered. I dare say the issue is probably a poorly planned out server infrastructure that is in need of a major redesign and overhaul to give us the housing we should have.

    Given what little we've heard thus far for housing in 4.2 it doesn't sound like they are ready for that kind of undertaking yet. So like it or not, we're stuck with what we got. As such we need the abandoned houses freed up for use by the active player base.
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  8. #78
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    Yes it is time to reinstate the housing auto demolition. I hate to say it but if someones been without power or internet for more than a 2? months they aren't coming back anytime soon. If they really cared about their fake pixelated house/houses they have had ample time to contact a friend or associate who has power and internet to log in and preserve their homes at this point in time. Its truly a tragedy about what happened with all the hurricanes this year, but life continues for everyone else and now the house hoarders and flippers are just using this as a reason to not have to maintain their homes at this point please reinstate the auto demolition SE.
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    Last edited by Dragonrage53; 12-06-2017 at 02:08 PM.

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    I don't believe the entire world of FFXIV housing demolition should stop over natural disasters in niche markets. This is literally holding up abandoned homes from being reclaimed for paying subscribed members all over the world to enjoy. If someone is a comfortable home with power in the US less important than someone in unfortunately circumstances and without power right now?

    I would say if players are in dire straights right now and need extra time, that should be able to be requested with proof of address in an effected area but with no power, is that even an option?
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  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahati View Post
    I would say if players are in dire straights right now and need extra time, that should be able to be requested with proof of address in an effected area but with no power, is that even an option?
    That's not an option because that takes a lot of work. SE is not going to increase the workload on their staff if it makes absolutely no money. Turning it on and off is easy.
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