The Zodiac "Saga" has been a terrible experience for me.... It shouldn't be.

[Rufalus]

For what it's worth they don't seem to want to repeat the Zodiac (50) and Anima (its lv60 equivalent) saga design. They are coming up with a new kind of grind upgrade system for lv70 players which may not involve currency grinds but we don't know the details yet. Yes it's perfectly fine to criticise the Zodiac saga... lots of people did when it was released, even worse as it was pre-nerf. Yes it's not heavy on story or meaningful gameplay and the reward is outdated. It's fine to ignore and skip unless you're a collector.

[Tsumdere]

I THINK the stuff crafted from the desynth materials got added to one tab of another of the GC vendors...but it might just be the HW relic stuff, and not ARR

No - the ARR crafted stuff must be desynthed yourself or bought off of MB still. I did this step literally yesterday (PLD relic achieved!) and it cost me a pretty penny.

[NephthysVasudan]

As someone nearing the end of the Zodiac quest? This is complete crap. (gathering mats for the post light gathering phase)

Its cost me at least 2 million gil to do this....and its not the gil...it's the guess work and price gouging.

Anima is a cake walk compared to this. - But at least i can say i did it once...but that is more than Ill care to admit.

worst phase thus far? materia quest - that was infuriating.

[NephthysVasudan]

So I finished the Zodiac Quest (Black Mage - Lilith Rod Zeta) this morning - it looks great...but the damn thing cost me nearly 4 Million Gil - and I had friends donating funds.

The gil isn't so much the problem - its the fact i had to spend that much to get what I needed.

Granted you could short cut a number of things - Anima cost me time...not gil.

drastically huge pitfall there. sorry to say - any newbie I encounter who asks where/why/how? I'm going to tell them honestly....don't go there unless you want to suffer painfully for weeks.

The other major frustration is I could have done a number of tasks (light gathering namely) very quickly if it wheren't for the stupid fact that only ARR Areas would count.

So Expert Roullete....various trials from HW/SB - all out the window/don't count.

Yeah...its great for a collector/achievement hunter - but only worth doing ONCE. - So sad.

oh and for ####'s sake.....bother to write in hints/pointers on next quest steps? We shouldn't have to use wikipedia's to figure out why the next step is blocking us or there's no waypoint markers....so damn confusing.


PS: I'm aware this is basically "abandon ware" in terms of SE's dev's - and they intend to do something very differnet..and yes i know its been buffed/nerfed/changed - I'm speaking as a newbie-brand new to this...right here...right now.

[HaelseMikiro]

To this day the longest relic step ever was the original 3 Thavnarian Mists step. It took 3 weeks because the Mists were bought with the weekly capped tome currency. Today (with a heavy time investment) I could grind a fresh zodiac weapon from start to zeta in probably 2 weeks

[Avatre]

The other major frustration is I could have done a number of tasks (light gathering namely) very quickly if it wheren't for the stupid fact that only ARR Areas would count.

With the light gathering, can't you do it unsync these days and blast through a dungeon in less than 10minutes? I haven't worked on one of those relics in a LONG Time, and I am wanting to do them all, for glamour purposes, eventually(still haven't finished my DRG relic from back then...)

[Rilifane]

With the light gathering, can't you do it unsync these days and blast through a dungeon in less than 10minutes? I haven't worked on one of those relics in a LONG Time, and I am wanting to do them all, for glamour purposes, eventually(still haven't finished my DRG relic from back then...)

Just recently finished Nirvana Zeta at 60 and you can definitely just steamroll the ARR dungeons unsync.
Depending which one has the bonus up, Halatali, Sastasha or Tam-Tara are fastest, each around ~4m as WHM.

I started it way back but never came far let alone completed it, so I just finished it for completion's sake.
Can't say it was worth it. While the weapon (+replica of the various stages) look pretty enough, I had hoped for some more story. Something that really deserves to be called "Saga". And I'm never going to touch a book again. Ever.

[NephthysVasudan]

With the light gathering, can't you do it unsync these days and blast through a dungeon in less than 10minutes? I haven't worked on one of those relics in a LONG Time, and I am wanting to do them all, for glamour purposes, eventually(still haven't finished my DRG relic from back then...)

Yes...that's true - but I have a tendency to get dragged into HW/SB dungeons/trials often with friends and will - it caused a major slow down. Bad luck i guess? Ironically i found it faster to spam trails lol.

[NephthysVasudan]

Just recently finished Nirvana Zeta at 60 and you can definitely just steamroll the ARR dungeons unsync.
Depending which one has the bonus up, Halatali, Sastasha or Tam-Tara are fastest, each around ~4m as WHM.

I started it way back but never came far let alone completed it, so I just finished it for completion's sake.
Can't say it was worth it. While the weapon (+replica of the various stages) look pretty enough, I had hoped for some more story. Something that really deserves to be called "Saga". And I'm never going to touch a book again. Ever.

Yeah...story - aside from watching gerolt do his thing - wasn't that great.

[Avatre]

I think I might work towards finishing my DRG relic(it's already a Gae Bolg Nexus) this weekend. Then if I finish that, work on my BRD one which is currently a Artemis Bow Atma.