WHM - Hasn't "Assize" become too powerful in terms of MP regain ?

[Tzain]

Think about this. a Healer running out of MP is a VERY bad thing. So we should actively try to avoid letting it happen. Since healing is the primary role and responsibility then doing 'other actions' will be the first thing to be sacrificed. That means that by nerfing the mp efficiency, you're really just limiting our chance to do something 'other' than heals. The MP efficiency is there because our primary limiting factor is GCD/Cooldown/Cast time, not 'MP Resource Management'.
I mean, if I'm being honest, the only reason I run out of MP is if I'm being too aggressive on my offense, not my healing.

[Grann-Goro]

Think about this. a Healer running out of MP is a VERY bad thing. So we should actively try to avoid letting it happen.

Yes, of course.
But the thing is, I have the feeling that I don't even have to "try" anymore to avoid letting it happen. It's almost automatic.
Personally, I tend to prefer gamplays where I have to caustiously mesure each and every one of my actions. Now I feel that I have way too much flexibilty, and it gets a little boring for me...
Maybe I should try another healing class, I don't know...

[Sebazy]

At the risk of being a bit harsh, it looks to me like you're complaining about the lack of challenge whilst not actually running the challenging content?

4.x WHM is pretty much the polar opposite of cautious measured casting, you pretty much want to be hammering out rocks and cures full tilt whenever possible. But if you want to be pushed a little, definitely consider dipping your toes into Susano EX. It's an enjoyable trial that'll actually demand a good chunk of healing without being to over the top on mechanics. From there, the earlier Savage floors and Shinryu await if you want to be challenged further.

Consider seeing if you've got others in your FC in a similar position that fancy doing some no pressure runs for fun, otherwise it's time to set up a training group in Party Finder!

Good luck of course <3

[Ftail]

Just looking at one thing for an example: their DPS.
They don't offer any utility to a raid, so they're expected to DPS more than the other healers.

I thought people expected more DPS from WHM's, because they have more potency on their DPS skills than SCH or AST does? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Square gave WHM's the highest DPS potential out of all the healer classes because they don't offer utility for a raid like SCH's and ASTs. From my understanding they gave ASTs the lowest DPS potential out of all the three classes, but it has the best Utility.

My point is, it's not that they are expected to DPS more than the other healers just because they don't have raid utility. They are expected to DPS more than the other healers because they have the most powerful DPS out of all the three healers.

I'm not saying WHM's are supposed to be always at the top of the DPS charts, as it depends on how your group functions as a team.

[Keridwyn]

As others have said it's more about Thin Air than Assize. Assize is a great pick me up and a hefty shot in the arm of mp, definitely one of our stronger cooldowns, but it has nothing on completely negating our mana costs. You can get off a couple of free combat raises under Thin Air and save yourself a chunk of your mana pool.

Our massive mana pool is really our key asset at this point and there are some duties that will genuinely tax it. I haven't really felt pressed in any 4man content but there's the occasional Rabenastre run that goes haywire and that's where I find myself grateful for a deep well to draw on.

[Valmaxian]

From my perspective it seems reasonably balanced. All three healers can take LA. WHM has Assize and Thin Air, SCH has Aetherflow, AST has Ewer. Ewer is the least reliable due to randomness, but its free and can be sleeve drawn or even spread, if you're REALLY struggling. And Thin Air, while fantastic, isn't without drawbacks - movement issues after using it come to mind, plus the cooldown.

[Silver-Strider]

Assize is hardly the problem. The MP return on Assize is a nice bonus for the skill but since we can't use it on CD and have to bank it on AoE healing situations more often than not, the MP return is kept more in line than something like Aetherflow that can be used on CD without a second thought and restores the same amount of MP as Assize.

Thin Air on the other hand grants me unlimited MP usage for 12 glorious seconds that I don't have to worry about anything but dodging stupid. I get a free rez, holy spam for days, and AoE heals without any worry (other than ripping hate off bad tanks), all for no cost. Assize does NONE of that.

[Johaandr]

From my perspective it seems reasonably balanced. All three healers can take LA. WHM has Assize and Thin Air, SCH has Aetherflow, AST has Ewer. Ewer is the least reliable due to randomness, but its free and can be sleeve drawn or even spread, if you're REALLY struggling. And Thin Air, while fantastic, isn't without drawbacks - movement issues after using it come to mind, plus the cooldown.

You forgot AST's celestial oppistuon combo with LD.

[Valmaxian]

You forgot AST's celestial oppistuon combo with LD.

Very true, though CO has the additional utility of extending card buffs, and can't always be relied upon for LD. Nit-picky, I know... XD

[bswpayton]

Hi dear healer colleagues from Eorzea !

Since the 4.0 patch, I have the feeling that the drastic buff the spell "Assize" received on its cooldown (reduced from 90 sec to 60 sec) is a little too much...

I lovee assize the regen on it is fine, I just wish astro had a thrid way to regen mp as it seems the hardest on mp to me out of all the healers, but whm having great mp restoration u can look at it as a way to make up for its lack of any kinda party buffs, compared to the other healers