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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If you think this change needs prioritising, then that's a perfectly fair attitude, but be aware that that means something else has to get pushed down the priority list.
    Yes, I think that they should put 'more NPC glamours for half their playerbase only' somewhere below 'making the bunny ears equippable by everyone like they specifically promised during a Japanese interview back in 2015'. As I've said before, I could do that in an afternoon (seriously S-E, the offer is open, you know my contact details). We've had two expansions since people were asking for such a simple thing, and three other sets of animal ears. It's silly.

    I understand the realities of juggling priorities but when we get a timeline like this, it feels as though there's a distinct systemic bias rather than a few coincidental accidents.

    Game launch: Everything is fair.
    ARR: Some things become unfair to male characters, but we'll fix it, we promise.
    HW: Have more female-only bunny glamour items instead of the unisex version of just the ears we promised before.
    HW: The solution that we came up with is to release more male-only glamours in Mog Station.
    HW: We're totally still working on that male bunny suit, honest, but we're busy.
    SB: We're way too busy to ever finish adapting the bunny ears, but Edda came out a few months ago and you thought she was cute - here you go, ladies!
    SB: Last time the ladies got something special... so here's a little something for the ladies again! Psyche!
    SB: Actually we now have the same number of glamours in MS, and fewer haircuts, and there are way more unreleased female-only outfits than male ones lined up for years to come. Enjoy!

    And that's not even going into all of the reskins and subpar male items now, which are subjective opinions (if you're really optimistic). This is atrocious marketing from any company which wants to retain customer loyalty from the less pretty* half of its playerbase.

    * in the eyes of the dev team, apparently.
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    Last edited by Serilda; 11-28-2017 at 02:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Yes, I think that they should put 'more NPC glamours for half their playerbase only' somewhere below 'making the bunny ears equippable by everyone like they specifically promised during a Japanese interview back in 2015'. As I've said before, I could do that in an afternoon (seriously S-E, the offer is open, you know my contact details). We've had two expansions since people were asking for such a simple thing, and three other sets of animal ears. It's silly.
    "Half of the playerbase"

    Two things, the game actually has many more female characters than males from my experience. And even if it were a 50/50 split of characters by gender, that doesn't mean there's a demand for it.

    You're a minority, there aren't flocks of men wanting to run around in feminine outfits judging from other post I've seen from you, correct me if I'm wrong please. or bunny ears ( Though for at least the ears alone I will admit it's weird men don't have the option )

    While generally they should take the time to make male and female versions of each set. It seems they take the easy route of releasing what models currently already fit the bodies. And for having say a 100% female outfit on a male ( IE the bunny attire altogether), I don't approve as it'd look silly, to each their own if you want that, it just isn't highly demanded, thus why they don't seem to take the time on it.

    This isn't a flame post by all means, just my take on why they aren't particularly huge on this stuff.
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    Last edited by Areic; 11-28-2017 at 05:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areic View Post
    "Half of the playerbase"

    Two things, the game actually has many more female characters than males from my experience. And even if it were a 50/50 split of characters by gender, that doesn't mean there's a demand for it.
    "from my experience"

    You're using unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence, so don't you dare talk down to me as though you have superior information. S-E's own census has males as the majority and the unofficial player-run Lodestone census has the difference as 3% more female characters/3% fewer male characters, which has already been mentioned here and statistically represents a completely irrelevant gap. There are tons of players of male characters who want bunny ears; Yoshida gets asked about it every time he shows up to an event anywhere in the entire world. Being an outspoken campaigner is a minority position, but being a regular player who would enjoy bunny ears if they were available is not especially weird. Lots of male characters use the kitsune ears. Fun is a thing.

    (Heck, sexy bunny boys are a thing too at the moment with Juni Taisen airing in Japan...)

    They said we would have bunny ears 'as a priority' in 2015. We know that it wouldn't take long for them to do it; they don't even need resizing for pity's sake, just positioning and removing the genderlock flag. We are, instead, treated as though our subscription dollars are worth less than those who opted for a female model during character creation.

    We're all being taken for a ride, and I'm sick of having to justify why that's not ok to people who think they know more about the game's demographics than S-E themselves. If you want to debate, debate. Don't try to bully the opposition into silence by bombarding them with condescending evidence you just made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    sniperoo
    Holy shit son it wasn't a bully post or talking down, calm your tits. Just stating some opinion on why SE doesn't exactly make it a massive priority. And just because someone ask him at every event he goes to doesn't mean you have flocks of people running to him at each event YOSHI WHERES MY BUNNY OUTFIT

    Besides, this is SE we're talking about. They're not exactly known for innovation, customer service nor a lot of positive things. Their game architecture is archaic at best, they don't bring hardly anything new to the MMO genre. I wouldn't hold them up to any promises of what they say they'd do
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    Last edited by Areic; 11-28-2017 at 07:01 AM.

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    I-....I think I should stop making posts like this. It only seems to cause drama..

    I mean- I do think more outfits should be unisex. (I kind of want Minfillia’s hair too) ..The Edda post had a better outcome.
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 11-28-2017 at 09:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    I-....I think I should stop making posts like this. It only seems to cause drama..
    I appreciate you

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