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  1. #51
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ark Vuilocand
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    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    i love waking up and being disappointed at yet another female-only glamour option!
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  2. #52
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Agreed. They could've moved the chest wrap to be around the waist like in one of the Eastern outfits they added lately
    I prefer if they removed it entirely.
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  3. #53
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I mean... It's an optional purchase , so I'm opting to not get it.

    To the one who said they were gonna unsub, please don't get mad over one item. Fight the good fight, stay vocal, so they can hear what you want.
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  4. #54
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Why does it not include the hair? Bummer
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  5. #55
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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Why does it not include the hair? Bummer
    I think they're saving it for the Ala Mhigan folk dress. Hopefully.
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  6. #56
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I mean... It's an optional purchase , so I'm opting to not get it.

    To the one who said they were gonna unsub, please don't get mad over one item. Fight the good fight, stay vocal, so they can hear what you want.
    It's not just one item; it's 21 individual in-game glamour items or 60 items (plus hairstyles) in total which are genderlocked with no equivalent for the opposite gender. Check out my posting history. Being vocal on this issue accounts for more than half my total post count, easily, over many years; they really, really don't care beyond the occasional "we're looking into it" from time to time. The insults and recycled non-arguments that the campaigners have had to deal with whenever they speak up on the issue here can be crazy, but we always kept going. Thank you, though (and thank you to everyone else who said nice things).

    I'm still going to be able to moan for the next month since I already paid my subscription in advance, but my renewals are switched off and I'll spend my sudden glut of free time complaining about the game elsewhere.

    It's just so, so disappointing to keep seeing new stuff released that I can't enjoy on my grumpy elezen guy. I can't even begin to describe the effect it has on morale over time. I love this game, but I hate its recent double standards.
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  7. #57
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    Iroira Sinzha
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    Coeurl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Then they will probably make Hien's outfit to be male exclusive, but add his hairstyle to be for both genders. Not only not making something 100% exclusive to male characters, but also forcing all the female players to buy something they cannot use just because of a hairstyle included in the bundle.

    I still don't understand why Aymeric's hair is for both genders but Minfilia's and Yshtola's magically cannot be put on a male character's head. Same for Snow's hairstyle and female characters, since it's just a bandana. Or even Thancred's.

    I do feel like the problem here is not the lack of balance between genders, but rather the pacing in which those items are released for us. We got Edda's outfit not to long ago and the male characters had to deal with a big "I'm sorry it's girls time now", which is okay, but now there's another outfit being added that is female only without a male equivalent before it. I'm still waiting for the promised male gold saucer outfit that seems to take so much time and resources to be done for some strange reason.

    And since we're at it, SE, if you guys want to keep putting those NPC clothes in the mog station at least make them dyeable. Or better than that, use your own patelle of colors to create those undyeable glamours, because 9 out of 10 times you can't even use those outfits with something other than the entire outfit because the hues simply don't match.
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  8. #58
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    Areic Davrun
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I told a friend when this came out you'd have dudes complaining they can't wear this. I wasn't wrong.

    Where's my popcorn
    (4)

  9. #59
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 75
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Why it isn't dyable?!?!?! o_O It's a very simple outfit and it costs 14 bucks, which is almost the same than people's sub... put some effort into it at least...
    Most of the items in the mog store are undyeable, I don't get their reasoning behind this but for the actual outfits the scions and npcs use they probably didn't want to add a dye option to it since it's already made and they can just toss it up on the store for people to buy without the hassle of testing it out for each and every color.
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  10. #60
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    Ariane Aster
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Alright, while I'm not excusing anything on SE's part here, I believe I can speculate on their reasoning.

    There are fourteen character models in the game: one for each race and gender, the Hyur race uniquely having separate models for midlanders and highlanders. You may notice when you create a character that you can edit very little beyond their face, and even the "height" slider does not so much adjust the character's height as it globally scales the model, making the character bigger rather than taller.

    This means that each ordinary piece of gear must also have fourteen models, because there's no dynamic engine fitting the gear piece to your character - it just loads the appropriate model, scaled to the correct size and it fits because all characters of that race/gender are the same.

    Most of the NPCs in the game also use the same model set as player characters do. When they originally made Lyse's outfit for Stormblood, they fit it to the Hyur midlander female model (because Lyse uses the midlander model even though she's a highlander). They could have released it then and there as a midlander-female-exclusive as that was the model they had, but instead they kept it in development, probably for expected sales reasons, making six more models for it and eventually released it as female-exclusive instead. Now for sure they could have developed it even longer and made thirteen new models for it, releasing it fully unlocked (and maybe they'll eventually do that development later, especially if there's enough demand), but this is why the "NPC cosplay" glamours are released (at least at first) exclusive to the same gender as the original NPC.
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