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    Hmm, let me be clear. I'm not saying things have to change, and noted multiple times that there are people happy with things as they are. Don't misread my posts here.

    I just find the reliance on heavy mechanics and predictible patterns changes the feel outright. That I could be the best healer on the planet but it wouldn't matter if I couldn't memorize the mechanics. That it feels like more like a choreographed dance then it does a battle, and I just wanted to open discussion on that.

    It's just not my jam, and that's alright. It's no reflection on my healing skills, it a reflection on my terrible memorization skills. I've cleared O1S nine times and O2S five. And...I have no motivation for more. It's simply not fun to me. I feel like I'm spending more time playing DDR then I am playing healer. It's like I'm in an Eorzean version of Crypt of the Necrodancer. And I was simply curious if I was the only one that felt that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    I just find the reliance on heavy mechanics and predictible patterns changes the feel outright. That I could be the best healer on the planet but it wouldn't matter if I couldn't memorize the mechanics. That it feels like more like a choreographed dance then it does a battle, and I just wanted to open discussion on that.
    It is test of your healing skills. You need to do both healing/dpsing while doing mechanics. Healing without mechanics doesn't require any skill whatsoever so if you can't do mechanic, you can't even call yourself a good healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    It's no reflection on my healing skills, it a reflection on my terrible memorization skills.
    It's fine that you don't like it, but make no mistake here: it is. The ability to memorize fights and plan for them accordingly is a huge part of what makes any player good in this game. Saying that you're good at healing in xiv but bad at memorization is a completely contradictory statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
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    I get what you're saying. And I understand what you were trying to say with your post. It is doable as a healer, though. I main an AST, and actually find healing to be much easier as opposed to how I was playing before hand. You get to really learn your true limitations through O3S. With that being said, isn't every boss fight like that with memorization? You learn the steps and then dance to it. This dates all the way back to Satasha, before everybody started ignoring adds to burn the boss. The steps have just been more refined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I get what you're saying. And I understand what you were trying to say with your post. It is doable as a healer, though. I main an AST, and actually find healing to be much easier as opposed to how I was playing before hand. You get to really learn your true limitations through O3S. With that being said, isn't every boss fight like that with memorization? You learn the steps and then dance to it. This dates all the way back to Satasha, before everybody started ignoring adds to burn the boss. The steps have just been more refined.
    The difference being the sheer volume of mechanics in Savage content compared to, say, Sastasha. It's the equivalent of putting two tablespoons of dressing on my salad for flavoring, as opposed to dumping the whole bottle in and all I can taste is dressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    The difference being the sheer volume of mechanics in Savage content compared to, say, Sastasha. It's the equivalent of putting two tablespoons of dressing on my salad for flavoring, as opposed to dumping the whole bottle in and all I can taste is dressing.
    If you were to spend an entire day going from Satasha to Omega Savage, you'll notice that the number and types of mechanics evolve with each successive level. All I was saying is that the dance evolved over time. Obviously, there's no comparison between the two, but given that Satasha is our starting point...yeah, you can see how mechanics grew from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    It's just not my jam, and that's alright. It's no reflection on my healing skills, it a reflection on my terrible memorization skills. I've cleared O1S nine times and O2S five. And...I have no motivation for more. It's simply not fun to me. I feel like I'm spending more time playing DDR then I am playing healer.
    Well there would be the main issue.

    In savage it isn't all about healing skills only. When it comes to savage content it is about healing when necessary while contributing as much DPS as you can as well all while managing all the mechanics and while doing your best to minimize negative impact from other party members mistakes. All of these aspects combine together into what makes a good savage healer in this game.

    This requires you to learn the fight more than just the outwardly obvious mechanics but also learn HP thresholds and when tanks take more damage (for example Alte Roite has a pretty hard hitting tank smack with his tail that has no cast bar, you simply have to learn when it happens).

    Also trying the content when it is 3-4 months old isn't a good experience of difficulty when it comes to healing. You are likely close to item level 340 which will trivialize the healing requirements in O1S and O2S because you are way above the minimum item level. Personally I cleared O1S and O2S around i310, O2S for example was quite strict at such low item levels... basically if you had no shields or mitigation for Gravitational Wave it can one shot people because their gear is simply too low even at full HP to take the hit.

    In general if you cannot remember fights well it will impact your healing skills so unfortunately it does have a reflection on them and your ability as a healer; that is just how this game works. If it is simply not fun for you then it just isn't, it may benefit you to maybe try a different role instead of healer if healer doesn't seem fun for you in savage.
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    Last edited by Miste; 11-26-2017 at 11:21 AM.