So are we *ever* getting the planned list of Class/Ability changes?

[Bahn]

They're nearly two weeks overdue from when you originally promised them, and if you're planning to release them so close to the tentative patch release date, you will not have the time to consider player feedback of your planned significant changes.

The playerbase has gone an extremely long time now without any REAL information. For most MMO's, I would say things like timely patch notes are a privilege and not a right. However, given that you plan to start charging us for this product next month and we still have no idea exactly what new content/changes are being planned for 1.20, we should have already had these patch notes.

Communicating these ideas with us should be your second highest priority behind actually developing the game. At this rate, we'll have the class change list in our hands for a week before the patch itself, and that's unacceptable.

+1 for this. I want to know what the heck I'm getting before I give Square my money, ESPECIALLY if Square isn't charging me the half price they claim they were "looking into". If they stayed F2P then definitely, no problems on the delays, I'll wait all day, no need to rush, but the deadline for P2P hasn't been set, nor has a date for 1.20 been set, just vague promises of "late November to early December". It's already past the halfway mark for November - we need that info early since now they believe that their MMO deserves the same amount of money as other complete MMOs.

Can we please at least get a "the notes will be out on xx day and it'll go over to P2P on yy day" so that we can plan accordingly?

[Jennestia]

It's already past the halfway mark for November

And this is supposed to mean?

we need that info early since now they believe that their MMO deserves the same amount of money as other complete MMOs.

Or how about this:

You play and pay a sub, or you don't. It's that simple. The info will be posted when it's posted. Other companies stagger info for their own reasons.

Can we please at least get a "the notes will be out on xx day and it'll go over to P2P on yy day"

Yoshida already stated you can experience 1.20 before choosing to pay or not, therefore this would be pointless since logically, when he says that it means you won't be charged until sometime after 1.20, there's nothing to "plan" for, you experience 1.20, if you like the changes you pay your sub, if you don't..you don't pay.

[Ronik]

@Jennestia

So your argument is that the devs have no obligation to maintain their promises on timely delivery of information to the customers who will be supporting this game with actual cash for the next year? You're somehow AGAINST them releasing the patch notes they already told us they would give us two weeks ago, and you're AGAINST player feedback for major, sweeping changes to existing classes and abilities?

I'm not really following you here.