I know of someone, a healer "main" may i add, who mentioned these things:
- "Prescence of Mind is only for slow healers "
- "Lightspeed is Useless "
- "Whitemages are soooo easy and i need a challenge "
- "I refuse to play with WhiteMages, I only play in Diurnal Sect(Astrologian) "
This person who, as you may have guessed 'mains' Astrologian, has somehow gotten basically carried through Deltascape V4(Savage)//aka the current endgame i guess// without touching very useful abilities in their kit, such as; Largesse/Collective Unconcious/Lightspeed/Sleeve Draw in the respective encounter- and uses lucid dreaming maybe once in the entire fight. I forgot to mention they are also a 'i only heal' kind of person.
I honestly think you are far better than this person already.
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There is an irony there. The main reason most AST barely touch Lightspeed, using it only when desperately needed, is that it cuts our DPS significantly. A drawback that doesn't effect a healer that doesn't DPS. >.<I know of someone, a healer "main" may i add, who mentioned these things:
- "Prescence of Mind is only for slow healers "
- "Lightspeed is Useless "
- "Whitemages are soooo easy and i need a challenge "
- "I refuse to play with WhiteMages, I only play in Diurnal Sect(Astrologian) "
This person who, as you may have guessed 'mains' Astrologian, has somehow gotten basically carried through Deltascape V4(Savage)//aka the current endgame i guess// without touching very useful abilities in their kit, such as; Largesse/Collective Unconcious/Lightspeed/Sleeve Draw in the respective encounter- and uses lucid dreaming maybe once in the entire fight. I forgot to mention they are also a 'i only heal' kind of person.
I honestly think you are far better than this person already.





As an AST/WHM main......this hurts my soul. The pain.....they even cleared this tier? I need to AFK long time, eat some cheesecake, and have an existential crisis now.
- "Prescence of Mind is only for slow healers "
- "Lightspeed is Useless "
- "Whitemages are soooo easy and i need a challenge "
- "I refuse to play with WhiteMages, I only play in Diurnal Sect(Astrologian) "
This person who, as you may have guessed 'mains' Astrologian, has somehow gotten basically carried through Deltascape V4(Savage)//aka the current endgame i guess// without touching very useful abilities in their kit, such as; Largesse/Collective Unconcious/Lightspeed/Sleeve Draw in the respective encounter- and uses lucid dreaming maybe once in the entire fight. I forgot to mention they are also a 'i only heal' kind of person.
1. "DPS that refuses to help or even get out of the crap" are almost non-existant. Besides "DPS that refuses to help" can mean everything and nothing.What I said is more like "and how about you, DPS that refuses to help or even get out of the crap?" and "why aren't the bad DPS being also called?" than what you think I said. Are you one of those DPS that refuses to help? No? You shouldn't be so mad, I'm not talking about you. But if you're one of those DPS and don't want to admit it, you should start to think what YOU are bringing to the party before point your finger at Tanks or Healers. Or you can just continue on this drama and enjoy the queue.
Wich one are you? Your conscience will tell. I can't respond that because I can't remember to be on the same party as you and I don't know how do you play. About my play style, my conscience is clear. I bring the best judgment I can make either to keep everyone alive as to make the most damage I can (including when begin to cast what).
2. The amount of other stuff a DPS can do to "help" is extremely small compared to the amount of DPS a healer or a tank can bring.
3. This thread is not about "bad" players. A bad player can be someone who tries hard but who won't succeed for some reasons (bad reflexes, bad memory, bad coordination, bad muscle memory, being new to the fight...).
4. It's way more tricky (and risky) to call out a DPS on his/her performances for very obvious reasons.
I'll reiterate my point, since you completly missed it: no matter what role you play, you should always try to be as active as you can while trying to reduce useless stuff like overhealing and overaggro.
That's it. Your whataboutism regarding DPS not getting caught as much as healers and tanks has absolutly no impact on my point. None.
As for the rest of your post, it's completly irrelevant. You are basically asking me if I'm a hypocrite. I'm not. I have principles, and not being a piece of crap is one of them. Thanks for asking.
Last edited by Fyce; 11-22-2017 at 11:42 AM.



Thanks! Although, admittedly, the bar your friend set is pretty low. *chuckle*I know of someone, a healer "main" may i add, who mentioned these things:
- "Prescence of Mind is only for slow healers "
- "Lightspeed is Useless "
- "Whitemages are soooo easy and i need a challenge "
- "I refuse to play with WhiteMages, I only play in Diurnal Sect(Astrologian) "
This person who, as you may have guessed 'mains' Astrologian, has somehow gotten basically carried through Deltascape V4(Savage)//aka the current endgame i guess// without touching very useful abilities in their kit, such as; Largesse/Collective Unconcious/Lightspeed/Sleeve Draw in the respective encounter- and uses lucid dreaming maybe once in the entire fight. I forgot to mention they are also a 'i only heal' kind of person.
I honestly think you are far better than this person already.
I just worry what healing on a white mage will be like at 70 and if I'll be able to do all the things I need to do to be a great healer when I get there. Stuff like Tridus, Bourne, and Miste do all the time.
Cheesecake?!! May I join you in your existential crisis?




I'm weeping for their godly co-healer and any magic DPS that had to pick up their slack... Those poor brave souls will one day find respite. One day...![]()



If that's the attitude you approach it with, then the answer is "probably"! People who go out trying to learn more and are open to improvement almost always end up doing very well.![]()
Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
Discord: Tridus#2642





For shure, we shall have a dual existential crisis featuring much cheesecake!
Yes....I hold a solemn vigil for their mental fortitude /pray
Another day....and yet needing more cheesecake to contemplate unnatural disasters such as this occurrence....
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