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  1. #21
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    Etoile Kallera
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    As silly as the OP sounds, it does raise the question as to who does the balancing and for what reason to make drk a little more "lacking" than the other tanks.
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  2. #22
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    Well the Devs who test battle content are supposedly pretty hardcore raiders themselves but whether or not these are the same people who do the general job testing I couldn't say
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  3. #23
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    Mute Shellback
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaTi View Post
    Well the Devs who test battle content are supposedly pretty hardcore raiders themselves but whether or not these are the same people who do the general job testing I couldn't say
    that still begs the question: how do they justify the tanks being balanced currently?
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    that still begs the question: how do they justify the tanks being balanced currently?
    Here's how:

    Can DRK clear all content?

    Can DRK complete all content at the same ilvl as the other tanks?

    Can DRK compete for world first?

    Can DRK do dps that is within 10% of the other tanks?

    Can DRK mitigate all bosses and mechanics as of this tier?


    If you answered "Yes!" to all these questions, then you as a dev can justify tank balance.
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  5. #25
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    Karuru Karu
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    the only proper challange would be:

    he should come as DRK and someone else as PLD and another one as WAR. and then all 3 of them have to compete against each other for a tank spot in the same static o.ô
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    Here's how:

    Can DRK clear all content?

    Can DRK complete all content at the same ilvl as the other tanks?

    Can DRK compete for world first?

    Can DRK do dps that is within 10% of the other tanks?

    Can DRK mitigate all bosses and mechanics as of this tier?


    If you answered "Yes!" to all these questions, then you as a dev can justify tank balance.
    Pretty much. Whether DRK is good or not is an endless debate honestly but for practical purposes all 3 are capable of the same content and at a far closer margin than in Heavensward, which in an MMO is as good an approximation for balanced as we'll likely see.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    Here's how:

    Can DRK clear all content?

    Can DRK complete all content at the same ilvl as the other tanks?

    Can DRK compete for world first?

    Can DRK do dps that is within 10% of the other tanks?

    Can DRK mitigate all bosses and mechanics as of this tier?


    If you answered "Yes!" to all these questions, then you as a dev can justify tank balance.
    >Implying I only care about DRK buffs.
    Good one.
    >Implying gameplay mechanics correlate to game development.
    Apples to Oranges there.
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  8. #28
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    the only proper challange would be:

    he should come as DRK and someone else as PLD and another one as WAR. and then all 3 of them have to compete against each other for a tank spot in the same static o.ô
    You should probably post that everywhere on the forums and all over the internet...
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  9. #29
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    All there question answer was yes on pld in hw as well so was pld balanced in hw answer is no was paladin vaiable in hw yes.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    the only proper challange would be:

    he should come as DRK and someone else as PLD and another one as WAR. and then all 3 of them have to compete against each other for a tank spot in the same static o.ô
    Hardly a fair contest. You'd have to have 3 people who could play their class at an equal level to the other two players playing theirs and even then a large number of statics just do what the meta tells them to do even if the difference would be too small to notice.
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