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    Ayer Austen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
    Tank 1 can hold aggro and mitigate content perfectly well, while doing 3500ish dps.

    Tank 2 also holds aggro and mitigates, while doing 2500 dps.

    Which tank is preferable to have in your party?
    I don't have a dps addon to be able to tell the difference....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    I don't have a dps addon to be able to tell the difference....
    Check if they are on DPS stance or not. If they are, they are already dealing more damage than being on tank stance. If you are playing healer, you can tell if they are rotating cd just right, based on the damage they are taking. If you're playing DPS, use emnity reducing tools if you see you're about to out-aggro the tank.
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  3. #73
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    If the group thinks you should only heal, Don't Damage or kick.
    Not going to lie, I'll welcome that kick happily. I am not your healbot.
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Its that simple. If you're a healer that only heals, and the group thinks you should do damage. Damage or kick. If the group thinks you should only heal, Don't Damage or kick. Its a dictatorship of the majority and majority rules. Period. No amount of discussion, no amount of threads, no amount of hurt feelings in these forums will change that fact..
    Its a dictatorship of the majority and majority rules, I don't think your understand what a dictatorship is, That democracy.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  5. #75
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    Ayer Austen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Check if they are on DPS stance or not. If they are, they are already dealing more damage than being on tank stance. If you are playing healer, you can tell if they are rotating cd just right, based on the damage they are taking. If you're playing DPS, use emnity reducing tools if you see you're about to out-aggro the tank.
    wow, you really missed the point.
    I don't care if a tank is doing slightly more dps.
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    Last edited by Ayer2015; 11-21-2017 at 10:22 AM.

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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Not going to lie, I'll welcome that kick happily. I am not your healbot.
    I personally don't care what you do. If you want to do damage that's your business. Bit what I want is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Its a dictatorship of the majority and majority rules, I don't think your understand what a dictatorship is, That democracy.
    Dictatorship of the majority is not democracy in the sense you are used to. Democracy implies discussion and debate. When was the last time you had a group in a PUG discuss group responsibilities? The group's will is dictated to the minority.

    Believe me when I say its not the most favorable situation for anyone. That's why everyone makes thread after thread about it. But arguing about it is pointless. When we wanted fast and easy AI controlled group matching, this is the by product of it. So we reap what we sow.
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    It depends.
    For more than 90% of casual content, yes dps is for dps only.
    10% like current toughest raid, it doesn't. DPS is the job of all tank healer dps combined.
    It's that simple.
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  8. #78
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
    Tank 1 can hold aggro and mitigate content perfectly well, while doing 3500ish dps.

    Tank 2 also holds aggro and mitigates, while doing 2500 dps.

    Which tank is preferable to have in your party?
    Tank 2 they're easier on the healer to keep up.
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  9. #79
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Tank 2 they're easier on the healer to keep up.
    So the healer can DPS right?

    ...or waste more GCDs doing nothing?
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Tank 2 they're easier on the healer to keep up.
    How? Hroudig said they both mitigate damage. How would Tank 2 be easier to heal?
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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