It's past time, Yoshi-P...

[Maeka]

My Charakter is on Ragnarok (EU Datacenter) and im also one of those players who allways thought refresh is just something like a minor hot.^^ I was told you could add players from other servers to your friendlist and invite them into a group but i dont know excatly how this work because i didnt used it so far.

Mmh. I see. Well I'll still do a video, maybe you'll learn from it, maybe not.

As I said previously I was planning on doing that anyways. I just need to find a moment when I'm not doing something already, and nobody else is using the internet.

[Kaethra]

And people think it's the raiders who are toxic...

Funny thing about that.. the ones in statics run with their statics or FC normally. They're not the ones pushing for DPS. So they're not the ones causing the problems the OP is bringing up, even though many in the thread say raiders are elitists lol.

I feel like 90% of the problems people like the OP have with dungeons could be solved by grouping with friends. Out of the last 100 or so dungeons I've ran (and this goes back as far as HW), I think I've had one bad apple in a group. Now take that chance and half it by grouping with a friend. Quarter it if running with 2 friends. And eliminate it with 3.

For trials and alliance raids, no one hardly talks and they're over before anyone can even read the logs. So they don't matter.

I made a suggestion in another thread, the one about 'what if the other DPS is low?' About how healers and tanks should run with a DPS on their server, even if they don't know them. It helps keep them from getting 2x apathetic DPS and quickens the run. Reason being is the person you're running with is more apt to do their role with effort since they've had some dialogue with a person they are grouped with.

This could work here. Group with -Someone-. It could be a random person on your server. Just say "I'm a Tank, I want to group with someone for x Roulette". You will get so many responses it will be ridiculous. And those players will likely not use parses or nasty remarks with you.

So there ya go OP, I've given you an EASY solution to your issue. Devs will be slow to react if they react at all to your plea at all. But my solution will help you NOW.

[Maeka]

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I dunno how it is on other Datacenters, but on Primal.... I have never gotten yelled at or kicked and I'm a bit of a lazy healer who only does some DPS and is nowhere near Raiding Quality. I can do duty finder junk like Omega, sure... but I'm not really the person to ask to go higher, lol.

But yet I still have my golden magitek armor, and I'm well on my way towards the next mount. Almost always get 1 commendation, quite often get 2 and a decent amount of 3s in my random experts.

No friends needed.

OP is either exaggerating, or he's on a datacenter full of nasty players, or he just sucks at his job and they're yelling at him for some other reason.

[MoroMurasaki]

I was told you could add players from other servers to your friendlist and invite them into a group but i dont know excatly how this work because i didnt used it so far.

You can do that but sadly only from your own Datacenter. Take Aether for instance - it hold lots of separate worlds like Zalera, Balmung, Sarganatus, etc. and as a resident of Zalera I can play with any other people from a world hosted on Aether.


Since you're on the EU datacenter (Chaos I think?) we can't play together without one of us making an alt on the other's datacenter, that's why I made mention of you possibly having an alt on my datacenter.

Paladinleeds is on your Datacenter though and from everything I've seem from him he's quite the able player and I'm sure he'd be able to help you get started with this stuff.

If you've got a discord feel free to add me(moromurasaki#5719), that way if I ever make an EU alt (which I am looking into) I could run something with you

Happy you're being more open to things!

[Kaethra]

I dunno how it is on other Datacenters, but on Primal.... I have never gotten yelled at or kicked and I'm a bit of a lazy healer who only does some DPS and is nowhere near Raiding Quality.

I've only had one issue and that was in 3.3 with a DPS complaining about dying while standing in AOEs. They were kicked from the group when they wouldn't stop harassing me. Issue solved itself.

OP is either exaggerating, or he's on a datacenter full of nasty players, or he just sucks at his job and they're yelling at him for some other reason.

More like the former rather than the latter. There's little difference between servers and datacenters. The number playing this game is too high for segmented populations to have significant differences. They're more likely jumping on a forum bandwagon after perceiving the experience once.

Its kinda like being in a trial that requires a bit of a DPS check and if you say, "hey lets pick it up a bit" and 1 or 2 make nasty remarks like "you don't pay my sub" or "I'm reporting you for using addons!" And the only parsing you've done is watching a HP bar and using intuition to notice how long the fight has gone on. Yet those players will go to the forums about how they were abused.

Suggesting to a group to not wipe is considered abusive and reportable offenses to many.

[Paladinleeds]

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This is exactly why I've changed my tune to that one of a more supportive tune. I think now she's getting a better handle of things that the collective "we" have pointed out, she's shown she's happy to learn and improve. As a result, I'm happy to dedicate time to trying to help her. I'm alright, nowhere near the best (indeed, my logs show I'm one of the worst, at least on ex primals, I seem to fare better elsewhere though), but I do try and help people improve.

She's shown a willingness to learn, and I'm willig to help her grasp the basicsand hit the ground running. Once she's hit the ground running though, it's down to her to push herself even further.

Also, as an aside, your spelling of "datacentre" makes me grit my teeth. Why do the Americans spell things so darn different to us Brits and other English speaking countries? D:

Thx for the offer but i think i will do this later.
Im real tired and will go off soon for today.

That's fine, we can tackle this another day. Truth be told, I should be looking into sleeping anyway, it is almost midnight here (sleeping pattern? What do you think this is? Real life?). But hey ho, when I set my sights on something, I'll go all out.

[Missbone]

What you can do is create a PF (Party Finder).

Thx for the offer but i think i will do this later.
Im real tired and will go off soon for today.

Mmh. I see. Well I'll still do a video, maybe you'll learn from it, maybe not.

Well you dont need to do this extra for me, but if you want to do it anyways you can send me the link if you want.

[Maeka]

Well you dont need to do this extra for me, but if you want to do it anyways you can send me the link if you want.

*nods* I've had questions about my playstyle and such and I've been wanting to do it so why not kill two birds with one stone... tho my luck I'll get a bad group or something lol. Or I'll slip on a banana peel because I know that everything I do will be seen if I post it and I'll probably screw up or something and look like an idiot. lol.

Ah well we'll see how it goes.

[Hruodig]

Ah, a strategy I can identify with. I, too, go into the official guild wars 2 forums and demand that they adopt a strict trinity class system across all content.

[Maeka]

Ah, a strategy I can identify with. I, too, go into the official guild wars 2 forums and demand that they adopt a strict trinity class system across all content.

lol.

Why not make every single MMORPG exactly the same, then everybody can be a strict wow-clone, lol.

(/sarcasm, of course)

I don't get what goes through these peoples' minds, I mean, these kinda quirks are what separates games and gives you a reason to choose one over another. If the OP doesn't like how tanking&healing in XIV work, he's more than free to jaunt over on to Battle.net for example.