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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    It would help, I think, but the problem is drk can't use it in raid to get the full effect, except perhaps on add phase. It's pretty much an (odd) dungeon ability, and it needs to be more useful or replaced.

    An interesting take on walking dead, but again it becomes an ability with a niche use. You wouldn't be able to use for the same things Eq or Clemency are used for.
    Thats why i was saying you could "cancel" the effect, so if the fight is just 1 boss, no adds, pop it when its up, and turn it off imediately. (unless you want the heal to reflect how long its been active, then canceling it at the last second gives the biggest heal)
    The act of turning it off, puts it on CD, and heals HP only, comparable to the current amount, maybe less if its based on how long its been on the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    (unless you want the heal to reflect how long its been active, then canceling it at the last second gives the biggest heal)
    That's a decent solution, honestly. I just meant, like, you wouldn't be able to use it for the full effect if it was instant activation for half. But this suggestion would solve that for the most part, although, there's still the minor issue of potency vs need. IE, "I need this heal right away but 25% isn't enough". Which is certainly better than it currently is, but still a bit behind compared to the other tanks options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    That's a decent solution, honestly. I just meant, like, you wouldn't be able to use it for the full effect if it was instant activation for half. But this suggestion would solve that, although, there's still the minor issue of potency vs need. IE, "I need this heal right away but 25% isn't enough"
    While not incorrect, Im too casual of a player to think of it that way.
    I break it down into priority.

    (1) Do I have a WHM to benediction me when I hit Walking dead? If So, go to #2, if not, I save sole survivor for Walking dead.
    (2) Is there any adds in this fight, where I need to AoE a lot? If not, go to #3, if so, sole survivor the 1st add to die, to keep my MP going for more AoEs.
    (3) Is there an add in the fight I need to tank, while also MTing the boss? If not, go to #4 if so, then I'll probably use sole survivor for the MP, and hope the heal helps. (Otherwise i'd be in the situation ur proposing.)
    (4) Its only a boss in this fight. If so, I'll just use it as an emergency heal.

    Essentially, I pick based on the fight, rather than in the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Essentially, I pick based on the fight, rather than in the moment.
    Sure, ideally that could all be planned out once you know what you're up against. I guess I'm thinking of it as, I've seen a lot of clutch Eq's and Clemency save the day. It'd be hard to use that version of soul survivor in the same way. Like say you're using it for the MP in situation like 2 or 3 but then get a couple of untimely crits, clipped by an aoe, healer falls asleep, whatever, rip clutch self-heal lol

    I do think a combination of that, and tacking a heal on TBN break might be sufficient. In LD you could shield yourself from a bit of damage while the healer starts healing, then it breaks and boosts your HP up on top of the SS. Or in the situations above, pop SS and shield yourself for the extra heal. I think it would put drk in a lot better shape in the self-heal dept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Long time ago, I suggested somes changes to Living Dead.
    - Increase its recast to 6 min.
    - If your HP reaches 1, you create a Zombie enemy with the same HP as your max HP. If the Zombie is still alive after 10s, it kills you.
    - If the Zombie dies while under the effect of Sole Survivor, Living Dead recast is halved.
    Isn't that kind of double-dipping? Like, you already can't go below one, then the zombie creates an additional HP pool to take hits for you for 10 sec?

    Or I guess you'd have to "die" to an auto-attack or something while the TB kills the zombie so the zombie doesn't kill you. Hmm. It's an interesting idea. Would likely be difficult during prog. Or what if there's no auto-attacks like Neo? Seems like mechanics would be spread apart too far for it to work. Except for maybe the quick aero 3 > earthshakers. But maybe not

    *edit, yea I'm not sure it would work in neo. If we just look where the invulns are used. The first delta attack you'd have to "die" to aero 3 - but delta attack happens exactly 10 sec later. For the double attack, there's like 7 seconds between antilight and the double attack. Might be enough. The second Delta attack is like 17-sec after antilight, wouldn't work there. The third double attack is 8 seconds after charybdis.. That takes you down to 1 HP, right? Might work there. So that'd be enough I suppose, as long as one tank can get the first and last doubles and the other tank can get the delta attacks. Kinda funny that, if I'm looking at this right, it would pretty much guarantee a spot for war based on this as you couldn't do it with pld/drk.* Sure you didn't intend for that :P

    (* - I guess you could still do it the proper way by sharing damage)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No. As I said, the Zombie is an enemy. You (the party) have to kill it before the timer runs out.
    Didn't see that coming. DRK would then have the only invuln that reduces raid damage on boss. Granted, 57k is not a lot at current ilevels. Still be pretty odd. I don't approve lol

    Zombie punching bag better idea xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Isn't that kind of double-dipping? Like, you already can't go below one, then the zombie creates an additional HP pool to take hits for you for 10 sec?
    No. As I said, the Zombie is an enemy. You (the party) have to kill it before the timer runs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I do think a combination of that, and tacking a heal on TBN break might be sufficient. In LD you could shield yourself from a bit of damage while the healer starts healing, then it breaks and boosts your HP up on top of the SS. Or in the situations above, pop SS and shield yourself for the extra heal. I think it would put drk in a lot better shape in the self-heal dept.
    Its a lot simpler than that. "Walking dead heal to 100% requirement now includes shields". TBN now helps patch you up and would make it a little easier on the 'shield' healer if adlo/every other shield/etc also counted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Its a lot simpler than that. "Walking dead heal to 100% requirement now includes shields". TBN now helps patch you up and would make it a little easier on the 'shield' healer if adlo/every other shield/etc also counted.
    They could alternatively give TBN a self heal since DRK currently lacks one of those as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Its a lot simpler than that. "Walking dead heal to 100% requirement now includes shields". TBN now helps patch you up and would make it a little easier on the 'shield' healer if adlo/every other shield/etc also counted.
    That would be good. I actually do like Walking Dead right now but having a bit of patch up yourself, as well as making it more fair on SCH and Noct AST would do a lot to help.
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