Can we get entry ilvl for levelling dungeons already?

[SpeckledBurd]

Elitism, because they want to speed run their roulettes.

This doesn't happen every run.

The leveling roulettes are supposed to be there to help low levels get thru their dungeons. Teach and be patient or leave.
Flame away.

It's pretty much impossible to speedrun a leveling dungeon because iLevel synchs to a maximum, what's being asked for here is for a minimum to be added so you don't, for example, get The Aery in a roulette where a Tank is wearing i70 gear and is getting two shotted by mobs in single pack pulls. There's a point where there not being an entry ilevel is an inconvenience to the three other players who all have to wait significantly longer than the tank to get into a dungeon than the Tank.

[Mavrias]

...listen, if you're not gonna try and help your fellow player, why even PUG in the first place? Just stick to a static group. I mean, would it kill you to offer pointers?

(No, really, would it?)

Help your fellow player with... what exactly? They know very well they should have better gear than that. Theres no pointer i can give than the game does by literally drowning you in HQ gear during the msq. The OP is asking for the game to be more direct about it.

[Mavrias]

You gonna pay my sub if you're gonna tell me what to do? Because I have a LOT of retainers and I'm used to taking orders, so if you wanna pay then you can tell me what to do.

I mean, I don't even WANT to queue for this stuff. I *have* to. Told 'em in Menagerie Normal last night - thankfully, they got me through it, and I'm repaying the kindness by not queuing.

There's a lot of us who don't want to be there any more than you want us there. TRY to keep that in mind (but I know you won't).

I dont have to pay your sub. I can just kick you when i ask you to equip gear appropriate for the dungeon and you tell me I dont pay your sub. Because again, the game literally hands you gear throughout the msq.

And if you dont want to play the game, then why are you?

[Canopia]

I dont know how one can be undergeared for leveling, in order to do the dungeons you need to do the story and the story pretty much showers you with gear as you level. This sounds like a people issue with some players being posterior head accessories than a game issue.

[Azper]

The leveling roulettes are supposed to be there to help low levels get thru their dungeons. Teach and be patient or leave.

Maybe in pre-50 content, I'll give you that. But after that, people should have a handle on how the gearing process works. At that point they're trolling or just lazy, neither of which should earn any sympathy.

[alimdia]

I dont know how one can be undergeared for leveling, in order to do the dungeons you need to do the story and the story pretty much showers you with gear as you level. This sounds like a people issue with some players being posterior head accessories than a game issue.

Alt jobs, someone gets to 61 in PotD/PvP, doesn't buy shire, the system allows them to queue for sirensong in their AF2 gear.

It doesn't happen very often, but it shouldn't happen at all, there's no reason why the first SB story dungeon can be done with lower ilvl than the last HW story dungeon.

[Jijifli]

The leveling roulettes are supposed to be there to help low levels get thru their dungeons. Teach and be patient or leave.
Flame away.

When I was leveling Ninja, I got into a sirensong with another dps, being a SAM, in item level 130 gear.

Obviously, they did no damage, but here's the kicker. First boss has a stack mechanic, remember? We all get into it together, even the tank. Despite that, the SAM was one shotted.

Are you telling me it's okay for them to go in like that? If they do the mechanic perfectly and still get one shotted, they easily do not have enough damage. Also, extra note, LB2 on last boss did 4% of the bosses health. The party Item level was so low because there was a dps in full i130 and a few off pieces from the tank and healer that our limit break did 4 bloody percent.

[Vaer]

IMO the first dungeon in each expansion should have a min ilvl since the ilvl spread at 50 and 60 can be quite high. Mostly an issue with alt jobs on the same character. I've been in dusk vigil where the tank was really ungeared, it was a pain. They would nearly die every time even when trash mobs hit them.

Either that or on the job quests, at 30, 50, and 60 give people a better boxes of gear or something. At lower levels its not as noticeable but I've seen people wearing level 1 weathered accessories in brayflox normal due to certain jobs unlocking at 30 and having no accessories to use.

[akaneakki]

Elitism, because they want to speed run their roulettes.ve.
Flame away.

Like mentors whos supposed to help players get gud but they make them worse in most cases lol

[HyoMinPark]

...listen, if you're not gonna try and help your fellow player, why even PUG in the first place? Just stick to a static group. I mean, would it kill you to offer pointers?

(No, really, would it?)

Dungeons are not content that require statics. Please. The MSQ gives you i255 gear before you even reach Sirensong. This game practically throws gear at players, so there is no excuse to enter Sirensong in sub 240 gear at the lowest (3.x quests give players 240 gear from what I have heard now).

Even on alt jobs, this game barfs poetics at players, and Shire gear is easily affordable after doing some dailies. But people entering Stormblood content with gear from ARR? It's just inexcusable.