Liveblog JP - Yoshi P's 4.2 Housing Plan Discussion

[Leloa]

I hope to God there is not some auction/RNG system to buy a house.

Auction system huh? If that will be the case then Yoshi doesn't know what "fair and square" means since then only richest of the rich will buy houses still

[Kuro_Mao]

Auction system huh? If that will be the case then Yoshi doesn't know what "fair and square" means since then only richest of the rich will buy houses still

I agree and disagree with this statement so much. Even post the price nerfs.... It ain't enough to deter flippers. Also, I will add housing was originally the Gil sync to get rid of millions upon millions in the game. If SE wanted to keep housing for the elite they should have made 1 ward cost the entirety of 10% of the server wealth. If they want everyone to have one then they should make wards only generate when certain conditional measures are kept with no notice when a new ward pops. Just like the first auto demo.

[odie]

I have mixed feelings about the one house per account. Obviously...its the friendlier way. Everyone has a better chance at a house than letting someone continually buy houses every update. The only downside I see to making it this way is the Balmung RP community venues may suffer from it, if forced to shut down. There are some AMAZING community venues that are loads of fun, even if you don't RP.

Understandably one house per account is the better route. It bothers me to see so many houses, possibly purchased by alts, that simply have a bare house sitting on it. Little or no yard decorations, and a massive empty space inside the house where it's clearly just being held and not used.

[odie]

There will be kinks to iron out and adjustments to be made but SE wants this headache to go away- they will be working on this as long as it takes I think.

Hell, I want the headache to go away. I feel like as long as SE sees the housing system as a priority thing to fix, then the rest of the game development could slow until they can decrease the player demand for a solution. Even if they have an entirely separate team handling housing, I'm certain someone's attention is being poured into it where they want to be paying attention somewhere else.

[Tussin]

I have mixed feelings about the one house per account. Obviously...its the friendlier way. Everyone has a better chance at a house than letting someone continually buy houses every update. The only downside I see to making it this way is the Balmung RP community venues may suffer from it, if forced to shut down. There are some AMAZING community venues that are loads of fun, even if you don't RP.

Understandably one house per account is the better route. It bothers me to see so many houses, possibly purchased by alts, that simply have a bare house sitting on it. Little or no yard decorations, and a massive empty space inside the house where it's clearly just being held and not used.

im fine with 1 house per server cluster, that way you pick your main home but it doesn't punish you if you really need to have another house on another cluster

[HyoMinPark]

I agree and disagree with this statement so much. Even post the price nerfs.... It ain't enough to deter flippers. Also, I will add housing was originally the Gil sync to get rid of millions upon millions in the game. If SE wanted to keep housing for the elite they should have made 1 ward cost the entirety of 10% of the server wealth. If they want everyone to have one then they should make wards only generate when certain conditional measures are kept with no notice when a new ward pops. Just like the first auto demo.

I can understand where Leloa was coming from with disliking the auction system. Unless the developers make the bidding amounts as just the starting price of the plot, only the richest of the rich will be able to get a house—because they can just throw as much gil as they want at a house, were as some will have only just enough to afford the plot. Also, they would need to limit it to one bid per server per account—otherwise people can just have their alts place additional bids on the plots that they want, which isn’t fair for people that don’t have 8 characters per server. So, unless there are some restrictions set on this “auction” system, it’s only going to serve that the super rich get their houses, if not encourage RMT so that others can get one.

All that being said, I really dislike both ideas of a lottery system and an auction/bidding system. It would be fairer than what we have now; I won’t deny that. But I still don’t like the idea of it. However, I have a nagging/sinking feeling that this is going to be the new way, so I can kiss my hopes of a personal house goodbye. Because I do not have luck when it comes to lotteries! ;_;

[Acilith]

I am guessing it will be a lottery.

[SendohJin]

Please please show me these many people..cause as far as i know there truly is just 1 set of 2 ppl on mathus that own a whole ward with 8 personal 8 fc houses..there are fc's that havei ts members buy personal houses in the same ward..way differnt... when it boils down i think the number of wards own by 2 people maybe 1 or 2 thats it

there are at least 2 people in my FC that have 3 or more houses on their account. there's at least 1 person on my server not in my FC that owns more than 5 houses to one account

there are at least 8 plots in Goblet on Excal that's owned by FCs that only has 1 character in them that has nothing to do with the 3 people above.

i find it hard to believe that my server and Mateus are the only server where this happens. when so many people don't have houses, it's a problem when 1 account has 3 houses, it doesn't have to get to 16 to be a problem.

and i'm not blaming those people, they are just operating within the confines of what the system allows.

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Auction system huh? If that will be the case then Yoshi doesn't know what "fair and square" means since then only richest of the rich will buy houses still

it's more likely going to be a lottery not an auction.

[Edora]

One house per account would be acceptable solution if it had been implemented from the very beginning. Implementing it now is not fair. I don't want to be part of the mob forcefully confiscating something from my fellow players.

Just in case - I am a very new player, and I don't have any house yet, though I am actively working on it, first of all - learning to make gil.

[Siniztor]

there are at least 2 people in my FC that have house 3 or more houses on their account. there's at least 1 person on my server not in my FC that owns more than 5 houses to one account

there are at least 8 plots in Goblet on Excal that's owned by FCs that only has 1 character in them that has nothing to do with the 3 people above.

i find it hard to believe that my server and Mateus are the only server where this happens. when so many people don't have houses, it's a problem when 1 account has 3 houses, it doesn't have to get to 16 to be a problem.

and i'm not blaming those people, they are just operating within the confines of what the system allows.

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So question is the 8 fcs with 1 char do you know for a fact there all the same person?? Or are you now saying people who have fcs by them selfs for storage or airships cant own homes??
as ive said ive only heard of the mathus people owning a ward putting in he time to do that..And mathus still had house empty for people to get lol the problem came when SE got there money from transfering people into locked servers and decided to move you all for free...the high n med pop servers had problems yes they needed more houses but servers like mathus n mine had 100's of empty plots till people moved to us..

Red: do you know why/how the people of mathus and like take me (3 houses) got ours?? there wasn't a house issuse till free transfers on our servers the nigh before on my server there was 218 open houses forsale most had dropped as low as they could go lol. So yea on low pop servers people owned more then.