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  1. #11
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    I've come to the Point were I'm thinking that Mentors are the most inconsiderate, most arrogant and most incapable Players in that Game. I have no respect for them.
    So, like anyone else, just with a crown on their head to make themselves feel better.
    (7)

  2. #12
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    Ulfhade's Avatar
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    W'skhol Tia
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Much like others have said, I do wish the mentor symbol was a watering can instead of a crown. There are quite a few people who are poor examples, but there are also people who are human and are tired of getting runs that waste an hour of their time. I am a mentor, and used to do mentor roulette until Stormblood, because I don't have Sephirot EX or Zurvan EX cleared, and I'll be honest: I hate it when the EX primals show up for the roulette. Nine times out of ten, it will not be completed because people go in not knowing what to do, and expect that they can pick it up like all the other trials in the game. Ramuh in particular holds a strong dislike, since in all the times I ran it, I've cleared it only once in the roulette. People don't know what to do, or don't listen, or expect faceroll content like the hard mode versions. I really think you shouldn't need the EX primals, because by the time you are trying something extreme, you shouldn't be a newbie. Or if you're new, you should know how to research a fight before jumping in. And to be honest most of the time I got newbies, they just wanted a clear, and didn't care if it was unsynced once they learned about it.
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  3. #13
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    Alexandr Nocturne
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I'm set to PvE mentor when not RPing, and do so for two reasons...first, people might ask questions, and I'll do my best to answer. And second, sprouts get an XP reward when I'm paired up with them. I don't see it as a status symbol, and when I see myself with sprouts, I'm a bit more forgiving and quicker to offer advice if I see slip-ups. I'd like to think I'm what you'd want as a mentor...but if you make the requirement L70 in all combat-classes, you lose me.

    Yes, many want the crown as a status symbol, and yes many can be elitist jerks. But I think you'll find a lot of those elitists have L70 in every combat class. That suggestion would only make things worse. I honestly agree with the watering can idea. A symbol appropriate to the status, but one maybe a bit less appealing to those who just want the shiny.

    Not all mentors are bad...
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  4. #14
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    Baingoleth Crimson
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I've met mostly nice mentors who are helpful to new players in the duties I have played.

    However, I did leave the novice network within a few weeks of playing because there were a handful of inconsiderate mentors with superiority complexes who ruined an otherwise helpful and engaging chat.
    (1)

  5. #15
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    When a mentor joins an EX and leaves immediately it means they are doing Mentor Roulette and want something easy and don't want to put in the effort to do an EX run. Those people are not true mentors and are only farming the 2-seater. Try to argue otherwise all you want but a true mentor would stay and help regardless of inconvenience.
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  6. #16
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    Sigiria's Avatar
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    Nergui Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Well mentors are just a players like anyone else, crown don't give them any power or obligations. there's no system binding them to anything. I can't see why you would expect much more from them than any other player really, since there's no rules applying specifically to them.
    The crown's just there to say "That player believe he can provide helpful advices if you want them... though he's just an endgame dude like any other and might have no idea what he's talking about. So bear that in mind"
    I use the icon most of the time just so new players know they can ask me a question if they need to, never meant anything else to me. I'm not going to jump on player trying to teach them anything I know about the game if they don't ask nor do I ditch people in dungeon just because I don't like what I got, but that attitude got nothing to do with the crown. I've seen all type of people dropping at the start of the mission, from leaf to mentor.
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  7. #17
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    ya ff11 had a mentor system, needed lvl 30 and 180 days play time. Most used it as a status symbol. But ff11 was helpful in the early years.
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  8. #18
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    Today I've seen a Mentor hovering right in Front of the Quest Giver from the Beast Tribe at the Ruby See so you couldn't see the Quest Mark. He stayed there for at least 3 Minutes (till I left the Area). Good Behavior for a Mentor, no?
    I’m sorry, but how is this a mentor being “incapable”, “arrogant”, or “incapable”? Maybe he was grabbing his daily quests as well? Or maybe he AFK’d for a moment in front of the NPC? Maybe he was reading the dialogue? Just because he’s standing near the Quest NPC doesn’t mean you can’t get the quests too. Unless he had parked his mount on top of him like people did with the Wood Wailer when PotD first released, I don’t really see how this is inconsiderate behavior....
    (10)
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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  9. #19
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    but if you make the requirement L70 in all combat-classes, you lose me.
    If you're talking about what I suggested, let me clarify. When I became a mentor, the requirement was to have completed the level 60 job quest of one tank job, one healer job, and one dps job. That requirement hasn't changed with SB despite the max level now being 70, and honestly I'm amazed it hasn't. Especially with job potions, this requirement staying the way it was is dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Try to argue otherwise all you want but a true mentor would stay and help regardless of inconvenience.
    And when the party refuses to listen after two wipes, do we still have to stay? When they begin verbally abusing us for trying to explain the fight, are we supposed to take it? And that's ahead of the simple fact that mentors are people and players like you and I never saw where these expectations of mentors came from. They quit, they eat the penalty like everyone else and if SE thought a harsher penalty was viable they'd have implemented it - they didn't. This is one dead horse you're trying to beat up, really.
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  10. #20
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    Lucien Ares
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    I've seen some good mentors who have tried to help sproutlings by giving advice in instances/trials and they don't even reply or say anything to the mentors who are trying to help them or they give nasty responses to the mentor who is only trying to help after awhile it does become disheartening that some mentors are like why even bother to try to help if they are going to either a) get no reply/ignored or b) get a nasty reply or yelled at.
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