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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    While it sucks, maybe the devs are okay with viable instead of balanced, since true balance is one of those nearly impossible goal, outside of making every class equal. I would like to see changes to DRK, but given how long they have ignored addressing drk, the class may be destined to be the pld the meme tank class of 4.0, but on the bright side drk is a tad better off then 3.0 pld.

    If they have yet to even mention DRK, it appears that the devs are okay with the current stance on the tanks, and in their eyes they must be balanced. It sucks, but the main difference between war getting their rework most of the community stood behind the fact that war was in a bad spot, with the drk being in thewf group it will create a divided. That drk from jp low key screwed the drk community wanting change. Prob will not get a rework until the patch after 4.2, if that.
    I don't really think its fair to say he screwed us, and that's not the kind of attitude I'd want us (people that would like to see DRK fixed) to convey, tbh.

    As far as being the meme class, I really don't think we should send a message that that is okay. Yeah perfect balance is not a readily attainable goal, but plenty of players here on the forums have made a lot of very simple, good, and easy to implement suggestions that would work wonders without robbing PLD or WAR of their specialities. I do not want to send the message that it is okay for game balance issues to just sit and stew in their juices for multiple patches at a time. Like Crater said in the post above, it shouldn't take much to be proactive.

    Speaking of specialties, I tend to disagree that we are better than 3.x PLD.

    3.x PLD had a number of things it could do better than 3.x DRK, like mitigate physical damage, and provide spot-raid mitigation (i.e. things like Cover and DV can be put where you want them when you want them, unlike the old Reprisal for instance). These made PLD an all-round better choice for a decent handful of raids. 4.x DRK, while viable, can't really be said to be better at anything than 4.x WAR/PLD. 3.x PLD had a niche, 4.x DRK doesn't.

    And that's really all we've been asking SE for: a niche. Give us something that we are REALLY good at, a thing (just one thing) that we can do better than the other two tanks that is meaningful. A competitive edge. We don't wanna be better than them at everything, or get carbon copies of all their skills. We just want to have a specialty.
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    Last edited by SyzzleSpark; 11-05-2017 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
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    PSU: You recently made changes to the Warrior job that has caused some dark knights to now feel slightly less useful in the end game scene, with certain moves like Dark Passenger feeling much less useful. Are there any plans to address these potential balance issues?

    Naoki Yoshida:
    While we are always looking closely at community opinions on adjustments, the team currently feels that these recent changes have not made a largely visible disparity between the classes. Many players are tackling the Unending Coil of Bahamut (Ultimate) and the trends in strategy and party composition is also a big indicator for us as well. However, I do not think it wrong to say that the contribution warrior can now bring with Shake it Off is more visibly apparently when compared to dark knight.

    Rip I guess. Pretty sure they just justified DRK being used in Ultimate as an indicator to DRK being fine. Full interview http://www.psu.com/feature/34640/int...future-content

    Seems like if we want changes we will have top stop playing DRK all together, seems to be the only metric they will react to, or maybe viable = balance to SE.
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    Last edited by Awha; 11-10-2017 at 01:36 AM.