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  1. #51
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    Nivarea's Avatar
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    C'lhen Madder
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Nope, that's what people are saying in Twitch chat, and I heard the speaker says about a PLD and DRK composition in a Niddhog normal Try : "A very agressive Tank composition, DRK is able to do many DPS" :facepalm: They said the same about a PLD/WAR composition tho.
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  2. #52
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    Erin_Singh's Avatar
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    Erin Singh
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I mean, that's what we get when we go to a casual convention stream (they were getting hyped about omega normal mode a few days ago, NORMAL MODE)
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  3. #53
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Can't believe nothing was said about any class changes, as anticipated it was mostly PR questions about housing and plushies more cash shop items/stuff to pay for, it's kinda sad when the devs don't acknowledge anything about their game.

    As for everyone who's been advocating on this forums such as Syzzle and Chrono and among others who are voicing their opinions, the tank community thanks you and your support, i'll continue to post my part for Drk as well as I knew watching the stream I had low expectations of them talking about Drk.
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  4. #54
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    I'm genuinely at a loss for words. Part of me wants to unsub on this (alt account) as well. Another part of me wants to just bury this forum in caps lock rage. I just dunno how to demand changes any harder or louder or more prolifically than we already have. And there have been some REALLY, REALLY good, solid, and easily implemented changes suggested in the last few weeks. Ideas that SE would do well to put their name on. But no.

    At this point, I wish they would just completely revert all the changes in SB to DRK and just give us back 3.x DRK in its entirety. That job would function far better than whatever we have now. Its sad that I can say that and its not even an exaggeration.

    I am so frustrated. I'm spending my time that I would be using playing FFXIV playing FFXII instead and farming loot in Cerobi Steppe because RNG manipulation is less infuriating than this garbage.
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    Last edited by SyzzleSpark; 11-04-2017 at 12:50 AM.

  5. #55
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I honestly don't know what you were expecting. I called it. PR gonna PR. Questions prepicked and everything.
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  6. #56
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    I'm genuinely at a loss for words.
    This is honestly how I feel i'm just at a loss for words at SEs decision making, HW Drk functions and is just solidly better than what SB Drk is and it is sad honestly. I rerolled Drk from Pld in 3.0 right when the expansion launched and leveled from 30-54 in one day I LOVED the class and it was solid at 60 when I first stepped into Gordias Savage.

    Plushies and housing, yeah sure I get they have to appeal to some crowds but there was 0 ZILCH NADA about any classes or feedback of any kind in relation to UCOB and Drk or just raiding in general how the number of Drks are either just quitting or playing War/Pld because being a Drk is just a hindrance to your raid group, it's pitiful really.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I honestly don't know what you were expecting. I called it. PR gonna PR. Questions prepicked and everything.
    Yep that you did and this is exactly what I expected, my expectations were severely low for this live letter we won't be seeing changes till the next raid tier at the earliest.
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  7. #57
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    I'm genuinely at a loss for words. Part of me wants to unsub on this (alt account) as well. Another part of me wants to just bury this forum in caps lock rage. I just dunno how to demand changes any harder or louder or more prolifically than we already have. And there have been some REALLY, REALLY good, solid, and easily implemented changes suggested in the last few weeks. Ideas that SE would do well to put their name on. But no.

    At this point, I wish they would just completely revert all the changes in SB to DRK and just give us back 3.x DRK in its entirety. That job would function far better than whatever we have now. Its sad that I can say that and its not even an exaggeration.

    I am so frustrated. I'm spending my time that I would be using playing FFXIV playing FFXII instead and farming loot in Cerobi Steppe because RNG manipulation is less infuriating than this garbage.
    I by no means organize peaceful protests for a living, the important thing is to be on message, and remember individually we are small, together we are strong. But if raising awareness on the forums doesn't work there are other options:

    - 1-Star Review Campaign: Go to every review website for the game and leave a review about Dark Knight and Class balance issues and about less than desireable customer service and lack of developer response to issues/favortism towards meta classes.

    - Social Media Campaign: Post about the lack of response on all your social media @SE make youtube videos @SE

    -Job Action Campaign: You don't have to play tank. I don't have to play tank. No one has to play tank. Without us the game doesn't move. Get 1/3 of the tank population to stop tanking until balance is restored and people will take notice.

    Just a few ideas. None of these are good for the game. It would be far healthier for the developers to just start a conversation than to require your community to protest your silence.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 11-04-2017 at 01:21 AM.

  8. #58
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Honestly 3.x DRK doesnt really function that much better or worse than 4.x
    the problem is the other tanks were changed so much, that DRK can't keep its continued clunkiness.

    3.x DRKs didnt have enough CDs for constant physical TBs, but had enough passive mitigation for auto attacks, and trash pulls.
    4.x DRKs dont have enough mitigation for auto attacks/trash pulls, but do have TBN for every physical TB.

    Plunge remains just as terrible, nothing new there.
    Shadow Wall is still weaker.
    etc.

    DRK is pretty much just as clunky and a mess as it was in 3.x.
    But the other tanks adjustments left them better rounded off than DRK. (Not to say they dont have some residual clunky features.)
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  9. #59
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Job Action Campaign: You don't have to play tank. I don't have to play tank. No one has to play tank. Without us the game doesn't move. Get 1/3 of the tank population to stop tanking until balance is restored and people will take notice.
    [/B]
    It would be hilarious if all DRKs just switched to DPS jobs, then when the inevitable complaints about DPS queue times flood the forums our response could be "well you want better queue times for DPS, then fix DRK so we can play tanks again". That would probably stir things up a bit and cause a general uproar.

    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Another part of me wants to just bury this forum in caps lock rage. I just dunno how to demand changes any harder or louder or more prolifically than we already
    Go full on hyperbole fueled WAR complaints on this mf'er. You have my support.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 11-04-2017 at 01:48 AM.

  10. #60
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    Rachel Alucard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    They cherry pick the same questions over and over. They then respond with the typical "Look forward to it!" You may get one different question but don't get your hopes up they will most likely just give potency buffs and label it as fixed as you can plainly see with other jobs.
    Please understand, thank you
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