Regarding the Centurio Tiger Mount

[Reinha]

You're not locked out of the mount it is 100% possible to kill 2000 S ranks for everyone. It just will be achieved at different speeds. Some people got it first day, others will get it years from now. Nothing is particularly wrong with this.

You can't guarantee that this game will still be playable in 30 years when I will be getting this mount. It's just factually incorrect to say everyone can get it.

Of course opinions vary on whether everyone should be able to obtain everything within a reasonable amount effort or time.

[Mavrias]

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There's a reason you hunt with a linkshell or at least a party when you're spawning S-ranks. I will repeat again, they do not spawn randomly. A few tries for the mob to actually spawn is not random. Nandi spawns because you ran over the spawn point with some minions during his window, not because the server arbitrarily decided it was time to spawn (á la Odin or A ranks).

Moreover, it sounds like you're operating under the assumption that you need to catch every spawn. You really don't and its unlikely that you'll never get an S-rank kill even if you don't properly network.

But again, hunt linkshells help. As does responding to calls you see quickly. And the tracker assuming its being used correctly.

[Mavrias]

You can't guarantee that this game will still be playable in 30 years when I will be getting this mount. It's just factually incorrect to say everyone can get it.

Of course opinions vary on whether everyone should be able to obtain everything within a reasonable amount effort or time.

Actively hunt, use your server's hunt linkshells, and find out what times they're usually being spawned, and it likely won't take 30 years. Or wait for the cash shop version that will inevitably come out.

[Mavrias]

You'd have to play for like twenty years to just "happen to get it over the course of your time playing the game" lol.

It's a reward for those that like hunting enough to devote a lot of their playtime to it. For everyone else its something to maybe get them into hunting.

[Mandudez]

It's a reward for those that like hunting enough to devote a lot of their playtime to it. For everyone else its something to maybe get them into hunting.

Exactly my point the way it stands right now. There is no way you are getting this mount by just casually hunting like the person I replied to thinks you can do.

[BillyKaplan]

I will repeat again, they do not spawn randomly. A few tries for the mob to actually spawn is not random.

But when it becomes hours of trying to spawn that particular S rank, it is very much random. And the less spoken about how stubborn certain marks like Agrippa and Rider are even when you do get relevant maps, the better.

Nandi spawns because you ran over the spawn point with some minions during his window, not because the server arbitrarily decided it was time to spawn (á la Odin or A ranks).

Actually, it is because the server decided that. The server just doesn't decide that after a certain amount of time like with the A ranks, but it has a chance to decide that every time you meet the spawn condition. And in the case of most S ranks, the server can also arbitrarily decide it doesn't want to spawn that S rank. Most S ranks are gated behind at least that RNG if not other RNGs like fishing.

But again, hunt linkshells help. As does responding to calls you see quickly. And the tracker assuming its being used correctly.

All this told me is that you think you're talking to people who don't know how to hunt or how the system works. You're not. We're just still criticizing the system.

[Lilseph]

Let the hunters have their fancy mount bragging rights just like the raiders/ gold saucer players have theirs.

Just to clarify something, neither "Gold saucer players" or raiders can enjoy of their bragging rights forever. Raids get nerfed because of echo, overgearing, heck! you can even buy your clears! and it doesn't depend on your schedule. MGP is easy to obtain (challenge log, MGP events, many sources). It doesn't depend on your schedule either. Hunts, specifically S ranks, are a static resource it gets worse as people get better gear, as they just get deleted from the map when they spawn. They can pop or can't pop when you're offline. Realistically, the achievement is insane. Halving it would make more sense than just keeping it as it is.

Other than that, I completely agree with everything William said.

[Doki]

This mount will get progressively easier every expansion as new hunt mobs are added to the pool.

[Mavrias]

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Neither will hunters. It just takes longer to get a prereqiuisite number of hunts than it does to gain 1million MGP. And as you only need to tag the S-rank to get credit, the only way it gets worse with time is if your server is full of people who pull the second they see it. Additionally more hunts are added every expansion.

Lots of things happen when you're AFK or offline. Gathering nodes, GS events, farm parties, big boss fates, etc. Hell for the first like month of Stormblood I couldn"t get my last 2 Ixion horns because he kept spawning while I was at work, in class, or asleep. That's just bad luck.
If you want the mount, hunt for it. If you're going to criticize the system, ask for things that would make the hunt system better. 24-36 hour respawn times instead of 72, more health/ survivability for hunt mobs, tougher mechanics, or just more unique hunts in general. Halfing the criteria for the mount isn't going to solve the base problem.

[WaffleFaerie]

This mount will get progressively easier every expansion as new hunt mobs are added to the pool.

New hunt mobs will be added, yes--but the old ones will get progressively weaker due to overgearing, and die faster until they are practically soloable, so to an extent, that will cancel out the gains made by adding new mobs.

Now, if the old mobs either scaled up in hit points or defense, scaled down in the length of pop windows, or were immune from attack for three minutes after being spawned, that might shine a different light on it.