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  1. #151
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    Robert Ilcri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Its not RNG. There are tons of resources you can use; hunt trackers for your server, hunt linkshells, etc. Its not rng just because people have been hunting longer than you and have more experience. Let the hunters have their fancy mount bragging rights just like the raiders/ gold saucer players have theirs.
    Gold Saucer has multiple ways to earn MGP however so you can't really say this is the same thing. There is an element of RNG involved with the Gold Saucer ones and all sure but you have many options.

    S ranks do not give you that kind of luxury. Since they are locked behind a time gate even the most active of hunters will not always be around for them when they spawn. Even when they do spawn, depending on the time of day you're lucky to even arrive at it unless you were already on that map. I've had days where I'm actively hunting/trying to spawn these things where it just doesn't happen and then I find out it spawned while I was at work or sleeping.

    Sure its nice to give the hunters something so they have more reason to hunt, but 2000 S ranks is bloody overkill. Adding in the time gate, the amount of time people can play the game, and other variables, theres a good chance for years only people who spend most of their time in game are going to acquire this. Why should people get locked out of a mount (A highly requested mount at that) just because of how S ranks in game are?
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Its not RNG. There are tons of resources you can use; hunt trackers for your server, hunt linkshells, etc. Its not rng just because people have been hunting longer than you and have more experience. Let the hunters have their fancy mount bragging rights just like the raiders/ gold saucer players have theirs.

    none of this matters if the S-ranks tend to be popped at 3-4 am, and you actually work for a living.
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    none of this matters if the S-ranks tend to be popped at 3-4 am, and you actually work for a living.
    Pro-tip: S-ranks do not randomly spawn. They have specific triggers. So if theyre being summoned at 3 or 4 am then thats when your server's hunt community has decided its most convenient to do so. Maybe time zone differences ir scheduling whatever, but i doubt its to personally prevent others from getting a kill.
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  4. #154
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    Whoever thought it was a good idea to put this mount behind such a completely asinine achievement needs to be fired.

    Seriously though, 100% agree the achievement itself either needs to be adjusted (at least halved) or the S ranks need to be adjusted (more of them, spawning faster, etc.). It'd also be nice if they would make old world S ranks not complete paper.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 11-02-2017 at 09:30 AM.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_Ilcri View Post
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    You're not locked out of the mount it is 100% possible to kill 2000 S ranks for everyone. It just will be achieved at different speeds. Some people got it first day, others will get it years from now. Nothing is particularly wrong with this.
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  6. #156
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    S-ranks do not randomly spawn. They have specific triggers.
    That's false in two ways. One is that most S-Ranks do have a random factor to their respawn timer. Even if they show as open on the tracker, Ariyala only tracks the minimum recorded spawn time. Many S-Ranks won't really become available when the tracker says they are. Then there's the fact that those specific triggers are, for the most part, RNG based, with very few exceptions. I can run around Upper La Noscea with my favorite minion all I want, I have no guarantee that Nandi will spawn. And therein lies the biggest difference between this and basically the rest of the game - the amount of time I invest in it is not proportional to the amount of progress I will gain towards the achievement. Sometimes I'll get 10 S ranks in the span of an hour. Sometimes I'll go through a week without a single one. They're not completely random, but they're certainly not as certain as you make them out to be. And that's before we get to this point:

    i doubt its to personally prevent others from getting a kill.
    No one said this is personal. But this is the precise problem with these achievements that I mentioned earlier in the thread - S ranks are an open world resource. And if your schedule doesn't align with that of your server, or worse, RNG is mean to you, you can kiss this achievement goodbye. This isn't deciding to play one game mode over the other, this isn't not having the time to invest in a grind - it's the unique nature of hunts that they're one of the most unforgiving things in the game, specifically S ranks. Between RNG being mean to you and other people having the ability to lock you out of the hunt by killing it before you so much as tagged it (can be anything from early pulling to just being there while you had to take a five minute break from the game because real life is a thing) some people might literally never get this achievement no matter how hard they try.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 11-02-2017 at 10:10 AM.

  7. #157
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    This is going to be an extremely unpopular opinion among the hardcore hunters but IMHO it should have been 2000 A ranks and 3000 B ranks. At that point, it could have been marginally obtainable for casuals.

    As it stands now, it's ridiculous.
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  8. #158
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This is going to be an extremely unpopular opinion among the hardcore hunters but IMHO it should have been 2000 A ranks and 3000 B ranks. At that point, it could have been marginally obtainable for casuals.

    As it stands now, it's ridiculous.
    Yes, yes, all true - but why should it be obtainable for casuals?
    I mean other than the obvious reason of "I want the tiger mount without having to devote the next 2 years of my life to doing hunts"?
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    3000 B ranks.
    For the love of everything, no. I think someone brought it up earlier in the thread, how that means that B ranks will begin to pingpong around the map and weekly hunts will become a nightmare. I fully second their notion. Just yesterday I was trying to find my weekly B mark in Northern Thanalan, but people scouting for the A rank kept killing it whenever they saw it. Being 50-something vs. 70s, I only managed to get credit if I was there when they found it. If they found it before I did, it was dead before I could even dismount.
    S ranks are an open world resource that's problematic to reach and that's for people who actually want to partake in this mad race. If you involve the B rank, the casuals you supposedly want to help will be harmed compared to their current gameplay because weekly hunt marks are one of the only ways non-hunters have of getting those mount speeds.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I also have to vote leave it as is, I do feel games benefit from items that less then .5% of the community can obtain.

    On a side note though I do not think this item is meant to be a grind, just something one obtains over the course of their time playing the game. Sure if you want to grind for it more power to you, but I highly doubt SE made this mount with the intention of people to endless grind towards it. Pretty much feel as if the item is simply meant to be a natural progress for those that do hunts.
    You'd have to play for like twenty years to just "happen to get it over the course of your time playing the game" lol.
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