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  1. #12601
    Player
    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Isn't that what devs gave you Rescue for? =p
    (4)

  2. #12602
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Ark Vuilocand
    World
    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    i get it: you wanna level up with your SO and do dungeons together but when one half of you literally does not know the BASICS of a rotation at lvl70 there is a absolutely no excuse. skalla run, two blms, one significantly better than the other who i would have Loved to kick but knew it wouldnt go through. this run took twice as long (about an hour) bc the dps was painfully bad; bosses died horribly slow and i wanted to punch my teeth out tbh. i offered tips, and the good blm responded with "i'm giving them tips." im assuming about how to blm, but it'd be nice if they actually knew what they were doing beforehand... for 70 levels.
    (10)

  3. #12603
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Healing O3N as WHM, helping a friend farm for some springs to buy tank pants. My friend is MTing and another friend is DPSing.


    We queue in and say hi, the other tank is a WAR in Deliverance so no fighting about who is MT/OT. My coheal is another WHM who is standing still not doing anything at all. We ask her if she's okay and my when we get nothing back my tank friend asks me if I would solo heal it.

    I say sure, pull commences. We are doing fine, I obviously have to scale back my DPS a bit but it's no biggie. Lots of frogs all around, as we get ready to move into the mountain phase my coheal returns. I heal the Queen's Waltz with a Largress'd Medica II (as I almost always do, it's nice having it on MT and OT for the dragon so I can DPS a bit more) and the OT doesn't get the dragon.

    With all those HoTs ticking guess who does pick up the dragon?

    I try to move towards the back of the second middle blue square in an effort to not cleave the group with breath. I had just raised my coheal but she wasn't up yet, I figure if I die we have her and a RDM who might pick me back up.

    The next part was unclear during but I watched it back now. The OT takes the dragon off me right before it's breath attack, it turns a bit and cleaves like half the group including me, my weakened cohealer and the RDM. Our SAM friend is next to die, we wipe.

    I haven't seen a wipe to this in a long time. I don't have much else to say on it. We cleared the next pull because the OT did their job but my coheal never got any better. Between me and the RDM she had to get about 5 raises. No new player message, no heads up from her that she didn't know the fight, nothing.

    I am not the best player out there but in content I know I will throw my cohealer on my shoulders and carry them to the very best of my ability if they tell me they need help. Not that O3N is a hard fight but I basically did carry this girl. My problem is that she had time to write profanity and tell people to "eat her butt" (without the censorship) in party chat but couldn't be bothered to say she was new or needed help or even a 'thanks!' to the group that literally carried her through.

    2 springs drop. My friend gets neither, they go to the OT and my cohealer.

    I think Yoshi-P hates me ;-;
    (3)

  4. #12604
    Player
    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Note to self: Don't try and do Expert Roulette even as a tank if there's less than an hour left on the clock before emergency maintenace... Our SCH seems to be having a tough time with the final boss (plus one wipe earlier because I pulled a bit too big but I accounted for that). Temple of the Fist. Both times I try to keep the group alive on the final boss after the SCH bit the dust (our DPS were SAM/BRD, so no extra ress available, woulda loved a SMN/RDM there Yoshi-P!). First attempt at final boss, after the healer dies, I lose the BRD next, then the SAM. I manage to solo it from 20% to 1% (cue "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" as I fall at 1%). Second time round goes even worse as I lose the SAM/BRD at the same time (after the SCH).

    Then BRD leaves (you'll see why in a bit). We get a NIN. Game has already said "We will be starting maintenance now." - we're like "Don't know if we'll get to kill it in time but let's try our best". We pull, 5% in the SCH dc's. Then the SAM and NIN dc together at 93%. My thoughts "Oh no oh no oh no, can I solo this?" - I get to the collecting his chakra part. Start collecting. 90k myself. Cue profanity. Lesson learned game, lesson learned. We tried our best though, and no hard feelings to anyone in that group. I just don't think it was meant to be.
    (4)
    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  5. #12605
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    Drudwyn's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Drudwyn Alphus
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    A few days ago, I went into O2N as my warrior. Middle of the day (Hooray for gardening leave!), wanted something fast and easy to get me closer to my Mecha-Bear, and I thought that everyone knew the fight by now. It's not hard, right?

    Right?

    Wrong. So the other tank, the healers and 2 of the DPS failed almost every single mechanic. We're about 60% through. We hit the 2nd wave of Epicenters, and the party wipes. All but me and the 2 DPS. 15% later, one of the DPS dies. Just me as a WAR and a Ninja. We won, because self-healing Defiance is the god-king of casual content. Aside from the massive ego-boost and axe-stroking of the win, I left feeling indescribable that there was no communication. No questions, no 'what am I missing?'. You'd think after missing things like that you'd have asked!
    (3)

  6. #12606
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    2 springs drop. My friend gets neither, they go to the OT and my cohealer. I think Yoshi-P hates me ;-;
    I'm honestly convinced, after 4ish years in this game, that rng is specifically set to give bads all the loot. Seems to happen every time in any kind of content for me, and boy do I feel it hard in O4N. ;_;

    (have lost who knows how many high rolls on shafts to the healer or dps who was eating the floor for the majority of the fight)
    (7)

  7. #12607
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Omi Senu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drudwyn View Post
    I thought that everyone knew the fight by now. It's not hard, right?

    Right?
    Always a bad assumption. Some people come and go. Some are new and just reaching content. Some make their way very slowly through the content. Some take longer to learn a fight even if it isn't their fist time.

    A lot of people take having one or more max level jobs and no bonus as meaning a player is familiar and comfortable with a particular instance, but that's not always true. However...

    Quote Originally Posted by Drudwyn View Post
    I left feeling indescribable that there was no communication. No questions, no 'what am I missing?'. You'd think after missing things like that you'd have asked!
    Whether they are new, returning, or rusty, if they need help or aren't sure what to do it can't hurt to ask for help before a run or after a wipe. If there was no wipe they may have been too busy to type, but yeah, if they are dead they have plenty of time. Many people though are embarrassed or shy. Others just don't care as long as they get carried. Can be hard to tell shy/embarrassed from lazy/indifferent.
    (4)
    Last edited by tinythinker; 10-27-2017 at 09:15 PM. Reason: edited for length

  8. #12608
    Player
    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    I'm honestly convinced, after 4ish years in this game, that rng is specifically set to give bads all the loot. Seems to happen every time in any kind of content for me, and boy do I feel it hard in O4N. ;_;

    (have lost who knows how many high rolls on shafts to the healer or dps who was eating the floor for the majority of the fight)
    Then *why* do I get such low rolls for loot?!?
    (2)

  9. #12609
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Rabanastre as SCH. Actually, it wasn't bad at all. There were no wipes, and I only died once during the entire run (and not even to Hashmal). I'm just here because, since my co-healer was also a SCH and we weren't the MTing alliance, I found myself... Irritated, at how useless Aetherpact is. Because seriously? For the majority of that run, I was sitting on a full Faerie Gauge with absolutely no use for it. Why is a level 70 skill so useless? WHY?

    Also, the incredibly stupid mistranslations on Argath's face mechanic. Fix them.
    (4)

  10. #12610
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    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Character
    Autumn Stardust
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    Then *why* do I get such low rolls for loot?!?
    It only works for the completely clueless “don’t even know they’re bad” crowd.
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