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  1. #51
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tillie View Post
    Make an alt. Come see what servers like Mateus or Omega have to offer and make your choice then.
    While the notion is nice - Realize that Omega is closed for transfers.

    The active player population on the Omega World has reach the same level of population as other Worlds in the Chaos data center, so World Transfers to the Omega World have temporarily come to a halt
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...06d0909189e479

    It's not an option for transfers anymore in the foreseeable future, so even if you did make the decision to stay there after trying it out, you'd leave your old character behind. Mateus is a different topic, though - for now.
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  2. #52
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    Masakata Izumi
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    As a Balmung player, the only issue with the lock is that people with characters on Balmung can't create new ones. Square should allow those of us on the server to make alts.

    If you want to play with your friends who are just coming into the game then server transfer FOR FREE to play with them.

    What makes Balmung great is the amount of people on the server. Splitting the server would destroy that. If you can't deal with the lock then leave.
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  3. #53
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    Dahlia Fryst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
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    If it had been locked before it got to the point that people were (knowingly) bypassing the character creation process (myself being included in that group of people back then) we wouldn't have this issue. At the end of the day; SE has the numbers. They saw the swelling. They kept lining their pockets with 18 dollar transfers. It really doesn't get more transparent than that. this isn't a two way street. If there is a loophole for people to get what they want, it's up to the devs to close it.

    There is already problems with cliques and labels and anti-inclusiveness even without tags lmao. the fact that there are people who are legitimately, embarrassingly, pissed off at ex-Balmung RPers who took advantage of the free transfers when the window was open testifies to that.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    1) Both parties can take turns trying to play hot potato with the blame, but it fell on both of them. People transferring knew full well the condition of Balmung, if they were so weak-willed as to be caught up in something so base as "Oh it's so popular!" then that shows their character. People are instinctive, but they're also not stupid. Can't play it like they were all innocent children completely ignorant of the world around them.
    Hey now, plenty of us are legacy players and just got plopped down into Balmung. Can't help it if our server turned into the hot spot where all the kids want to hang out D:
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  5. #55
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    Mikki's Avatar
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    A split would be a good way to address the issue. Creating a new server for it to split into, everyone could keep their current names and houses. Lock names/empty housing plots for a month. Allow people to decide which server they wish to remain on in this time so that they can easily transfer with their house and name still safe. Keep FCs together and strike a balance. It would likely be a lot of work, but I think it would address the issues Balmung has. Although I'm sure it would upset a lot of people, too. Especially if their friends are on one server but their FC moves to the new one. Which is bound to happen.
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  6. #56
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Hey now, plenty of us are legacy players and just got plopped down into Balmung. Can't help it if our server turned into the hot spot where all the kids want to hang out D:
    Sorry, I never meant it as a dog on those who had already been living there. It's meant purely to those who decided to force themselves in through transfers knowing full well the situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tillie View Post
    There is already problems with cliques and labels and anti-inclusiveness even without tags lmao. the fact that there are people who are legitimately, embarrassingly, pissed off at ex-Balmung RPers who took advantage of the free transfers when the window was open testifies to that.
    Yes, and none of it condoned by SE or the dev team by any capacity, they let the players do their thing. Them actually putting their foot down and planting a tag here or and flag there gives people more "official" leeway to harass and exclude. Players make the game how they want in terms of community, the creators aren't going to babysit them like children.

    The transfers, as everything at a cost of real money, was more than likely an executive decision, whom of which the devs are at the beck and call. They kept lining their pockets and players kept making the problem worse. It's the same controversy as the growing problem with cash-shops, micro-transactions, and loot boxes plaguing games these days. "Oh well they let us buy them, they wouldn't have if they know its bad." is a poor excuse and feigning responsibility on the players. Of course they shouldn't do it, but SE (not the devs or the actual workforce of the game) are greedy money-grubbers. They will do what they possibly can to collect more. Until people actually decide to put their foot down and take responsibility for their own actions it's as it will be.
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  7. #57
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    Areku Foxfire
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    It's almost like SE wants people to stop congesting the over-populated servers and play on less popular ones.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    Allow people to decide which server they wish to remain on in this time [...]
    The likely case would then be that almost everyone would transfer to the same one and you have more of a shave than a split >_>
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  9. #59
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    1) Both parties can take turns trying to play hot potato with the blame, but it fell on both of them. People transferring knew full well the condition of Balmung, if they were so weak-willed as to be caught up in something so base as "Oh it's so popular!" then that shows their character. People are instinctive, but they're also not stupid. Can't play it like they were all innocent children completely ignorant of the world around them.
    Back up a second. BOTH?? parties are to blame.I pay for the company to regulate and maintain a quality game life. I do not pay for them to stuff their pockets and jet around the world. Last time I checked Balmung is LEGACY LEGACY means a bunch of us are from 1.0 and in fact you will find characters with names _____ ffxiserver. Which means we are not only legacy we are pre14 and the name was a bonus by being subscribed to 11 at the same time Or another sign https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Hermes%27_Shoes

    This is not some random bug like people emoting through walls. This was a deliberate choice by a company over the course of the games life to cash in. Some months more transfers were recorded then other servers had subs. I guess where you come from its easy to blame the addict as well as the dealer instead of trying to fix the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, I never meant it as a dog on those who had already been living there. It's meant purely to those who decided to force themselves in through transfers knowing full well the situation.

    The transfers, as everything at a cost of real money, was more than likely an executive decision, whom of which the devs are at the beck and call. They kept lining their pockets and players kept making the problem worse.
    I see you apologized/clarified the first statement.

    Second devs don't get a pass because someone else in the company makes a decision. They are a company going forward. They actively chose to be involved in the corporate mandate to make money. It is easy for a guy to play to the crowd "I wish we could give players everything, but money." But who also probably cashes his bonus checks. Unless they have come out and said they would take less money to run the game so that their was no micro-transactions? Did I miss that?
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 10-27-2017 at 02:32 AM.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, I never meant it as a dog on those who had already been living there. It's meant purely to those who decided to force themselves in through transfers knowing full well the situation.
    All good! It was really just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Should have used a different smiley. Granted there is truth to the legacy comment, but I really wasn't really meaning to bust your chops.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 10-27-2017 at 02:36 AM.

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