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  1. #11
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Well if you haven't noticed, they clearly realize they should hide the ears on the hat, and takes the time to hide the ears. But no, they cannot make the drape/flip shorter on the back in the first place during concept design.

    It shows that they have made a conscious decision to simply pretend tails don't exist when they design gear.
    My character has a tail, horns, I see no big deal in it -.-. I'm too focus on actual game play then worrying about a fashion show. No offense I design as well and I want my work to be perfect. On the other hand when your boss is pressuring you and touch up becomes a side project I rather comeback to it when time allows than not meeting deadlines.
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  2. #12
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    People talk about time and resource to fix it.

    I'm talking about neglect. Ears and tails should be accounted for at the very start when the whole design was still on paper, or in the designer's head. You know the gear is going to go to these different races, you should be designing with the characteristics of these races in mind.

    If I design a cloak, I know it's going to clip through tails. If I design a hat, I know it's going to clip through ears. I would be considering these body parts even before the modeling is done, when the whole thing is still in my head.

    It doesn't take extra time to "fix" the thing, because the problem shouldn't have occurred in the first place.

    I don't mind some clipping as long as we can pretend there's a hole there for the tail. It's fine when the gear surface is tight against the body. But it's not fine in this case with the not-cloak-drapy-flop-thingy that will cut across the tail when I move. The designer knew this would happen, yet insisted on making it long enough to cut across the tail.

    What I'm talking about, is that in future when designing new gear, this kind of unreasonable clipping should be avoided as part of the design process in the first place.

    You don't need to spend time and resources to fix something if you do it right the first time. It doesn't take testing all possible combinations of races and gear pieces to avoid this. It takes common sense. Just a little bit of common sense.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 10-25-2017 at 11:52 PM.
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  3. #13
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I do agree with this. They clearly take a lot of time with the ears (although I'm hearing mixed reviews with the horns). But the tails. The tails. I get that you can't just slap a hole there and call it a day with where tails are located but I feel that there could at least be something done about it. I love my miqo'te and I really think it's a shame that so many outfits clip like that. I loved old 1.0 design stuff and while I get that they don't have time for that if they can design so much new gear for every patch at least they could make some of it tail friendly?
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  4. #14
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    In 1.0 my tail never clipped. At least not to this degree.
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  5. #15
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Some people are content with mediocrity. As a tail owner, this has bothered me ever since I started playing over 2 years ago
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  6. #16
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I'd say most people like variety, the people who complain about clipping are just nitpicking, I'd hate it if we only got 1-2 new looks per year just because they would have to test every single skin in every single possible scenario to keep patching it over and over.
    To be fair, it wouldn't take much to lift the tail slightly to minimize clipping issues with certain gear. They could at least put in some effort to avoid it since we have multiple races with tails and uniquely shaped ears.
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  7. #17
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    I can definitely understand the frustration with tail clipping. A lot of the recent outfits released that I own (yes, a lot of them cash shop glams) have the issue with tail clipping. I can kind of ignore it if I don’t pay too much attention to it, and it helps that, when running, female Miqo’te tails sort of raise themselves up away from the body, so they don’t always clip as bad. But, one of my favorite dresses is the wedding gown, and the tail clips so bad. I would have hoped the devs would have used a bit of foresight when designing a more or less premium item, considering there was a race with a tail when the Eternal Bond was released (and now, we have two).

    I also miss when the devs would give gear for female Miqo’te or Au Ra little bows over the tails. ;_; Those were so cute, and I’ve noticed a distinct lack of them in recent gear. My character wants her butt-bows back! ;_;
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  8. #18
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    Powe's Avatar
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    Hades Pluto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Sadly don't have 4.1 dungeon equipment, but managed to try caster chest on.




    My horns are slightly clipping with the collar and I'm fine with that since my hair is pretty much just going straight through it.

    But tail clipping would have been easy to solve by shortening that "drape".
    my horns stick out from the front and back lol. They could have just hidden the tail like the werewolf costume does
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  9. #19
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    my horns stick out from the front and back lol. They could have just hidden the tail like the werewolf costume does
    While I've seen a (very) few outfits that this would work for, there's so much clipping (my tail goes through the back satchel on the striking top from Skalla) that you'd pretty much have to hide the tail in most outfits. I'm very much not okay with them deciding that the way to deal with clipping issues for a main racial feature of my character is to hide said feature. I didn't make a hyur, I made a miqo'te.

    I get that not everybody sees this as an issue, just like not everybody cares about glamour, not everybody cares about housing, etc. But it's still pretty disappointing design.
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  10. #20
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    Kazgrel's Avatar
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    One of my pet peeves in Guild Wars 2 was any armor pieces/sets that had the tail of my Charrs clipping through them. That game made me adverse to playing a race with a tail. Needless to say, I've stuck with Hyur ever since I started playing here.
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