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  1. #111
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    Siniztor's Avatar
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    Sin Bathory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Thank you for the link, but I am already sufficiently familiar with the definition of the word.

    Arguing from your own copy/paste-
    As a retroactive implementation of a per-account housing cap would serve as neither a form of retribution nor penalty through judicial procedure, then the only means you have as defining it as a 'punishment' would be your third option: 'severe, rough, or disastrous treatment.' That one, I am afraid, ultimately comes down to a matter of opinion.

    I do not think that stripping excess houses would be 'severe, rough, or disastrous' as long as the owners were warned ahead of time, compensated for their purchases, and given time to decide what house to keep. You, obviously, feel differently. There is no objective way to determine which opinion is correct, so I guess we just have to agree to disagree on whether or not the term 'punishment' applies.
    Oh i can agree to disagree im not gonna wish ill will or nothing like that. were both just stating our opinions which differ on this matter. but i think as whole we can all agree this all falls on SE.. the side with multi houses feel so strong because we did get houses following there rules.. the other side dosent think SE rule is fair in gernal. so all n all it falls on SE.

    but no matter what happens i wish you happy adventures and profitable crafting
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 10-24-2017 at 09:16 AM.

  2. #112
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    This is what the maijorty of people who own multi houses have been saying..we followed SE rules wither people think the rules were right or wrong its what SE put in the game we did not bend or break any rules..as posted above SE put in player houses as a character base system not a account based system.. SE own wording says that. just grandfather us in lock us from transfer or buying n be done with it.
    I am going to continuously slap you with the ToS you seem to conveniently ignore in your hypocritical stance.

    11.8 Changes to this User Agreement. Square Enix reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete any of the terms and conditions of this User Agreement or the way that the Game operates at any time. Square Enix will notify you of such changes in one of the following ways at its sole discretion: through a patch, email, postal mail, website posting, pop-up screen or in-game notice. If you do not agree to any such change or modification, you may terminate this User Agreement by uninstalling the Licensed Software and destroying your copy(ies). Your continued use of the Game following any revision to this User Agreement will demonstrate your full acceptance of any and all such changes.

    If you're going to use Square Enix in your defense, you also have acknowledge the above, which specifically says they are under no obligation to honour your exploitation. Once again, I fault no one who took advantage of the system, but your whining here is no different than someone whining whenever they fix the Squadron bug. Grandfathering you in defeats the entire purpose beyond such a system. You just want to keep your houses.
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  3. #113
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
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    Thank you. I wish i had more internet cookies for you. This is exactly the point I have been trying to make by comparing this possible change to demo timers.

    Should we also have grandfathered in everyone who bought a house before the demo timer was added? They didn't break any rules either.
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  4. #114
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    Megumin Lensflare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    If you've been playing for years and " trying hard " and still haven't gotten a house.
    So if a new player joins the game and worked his as off and got 50mil (from 24-7 hour grinding crafts and sell their ass) but "lost" in the battle for Shirogane housing due to lobby error and long que times, does that mean they didn't work enough then? Think about it before you start generalizing everyone. There is a reason why people are upset because, in order to get the house regardless of how HARD WORKING you are, you still might not get it because there is a lack of supply and luck thrown into it.
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    Last edited by ZStar; 10-24-2017 at 05:43 PM.

  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
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    So what if a new player comes along and work his ass off non-stop and got 50mil till the shirogane housing war but didn't get the house because of lobby error and long queue times? All because of luck that player didn't get it then? Also changing servers is a sensitive thing because there are plenty of factors of why a person cant change servers such as lantecy which forces them to only stay on one server. So if they were to listen to your selfish opinion that they should change server because they want housing that BADLY and then gets 300ping in a titan fight ain't gonna solve the issue.

    We are here to offer solutions to make the game better. People against the 1 house per server are because they are afraid their houses are taken away from that, that is normal. It is fear, human fear and of course UNJUST to lose all the houses if I were to put myself in your position. So could you had done the same thing and put yourself into a NEW player position who played the game non-stop every day to get the GILS but didn't get the housing because of luck?
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  6. #116
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    Abel Fei
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZStar View Post
    So if a new player joins the game and worked his as off and got 50mil (from 24-7 hour grinding crafts and sell their ass) but "lost" in the battle for Shirogane housing due to lobby error and long que times, does that mean they didn't work enough then? Think about it before you start generalizing everyone. There is a reason why people are upset because, in order to get the house regardless of how HARD WORKING you are, you still might not get it because there is a lack of supply and luck thrown into it.
    just buy one. 50 ,illion gil is a weeks income. If you want so bad just buy one.
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  7. #117
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    Work hard. Make alot of gil. Buy one. It's that easy. Buy one from someone upgrading, not flipping. Happens every day on every server.
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  8. #118
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Work hard. Make alot of gil. Buy one. It's that easy. Buy one from someone upgrading, not flipping. Happens every day on every server.
    Doesn't happen every day on a lot of servers though. You are advocating them to go buy from a flipper on a majority of servers as that's the only option.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Doesn't happen every day on a lot of servers though. You are advocating them to go buy from a flipper on a majority of servers as that's the only option.
    He is. He is one of those people. He will never listen to reasoning.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    just buy one. 50 ,illion gil is a weeks income. If you want so bad just buy one.
    I personally have gotten a house (before it was cheaper, ARR times) before I changed server due to latency issues. Had to abandon the house and go into a heavily populated server. I am not in a rush to get a house, I am just pointing out that there are people who worked as hard but didn't get the house.

    I for one would love SE to improve apartment so I can avoid people like you in the housing area. A torn in the community
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