Restricting houses to one per account!!!

[Abelfei]

You mean buy the house from a player above the highest plot price? That is called flipping a house. Either way im done Se has gotten my feedback i hope you loose all your plots. Good day sirs.

You're the one that said buy it above highest plot, I just showed what plots were going for. There are plenty of people who resale them for the original plot price, just breaking even, and then you pay game fee on top of that. IMO that's not flipping.

[Siniztor]

You mean buy the house from a player above the highest plot price? That is called flipping a house. Either way im done Se has gotten my feedback i hope you loose all your plots. Good day sirs.

Since you included a "s" at the end of sir im gonna take it your reffering to me to.. All i did was say that i can't feel for people who did not use all options with in the rules they had.. you say you been sitting wanting a house for years , when all you had to do is pay to transfer to where houses were if thats what you truly wanted. So in turn now you come back with i hope you lose all your houses?? what are we 4

[Rymm]

those that do not have houses wishing those that do to lose their houses

Please do not fall into this extremely common and extremely erroneous assumption that it is only non-owners who want this.
The FC I am in has a house.
I own a personal house.
I have long, looooong been a proponent of the 'one personal/one FC per account, per server' suggestion.

At this point I honestly don't care if they grandfather hoarders in (as long as they are prohibited from buying any more or relocating any existing homes until they are in compliance) if it would mean the difference between getting the restrictions implemented or not. I absolutely would not shed any tears for them if SE did decide to strip the hoarders of all their excess homes though, as that has long struck me as the fairest option.

[Siniztor]

Please do not fall into this extremely common and extremely erroneous assumption that it is only non-owners who want this.
The FC I am in has a house.
I own a personal house.
I have long, looooong been a proponent of the 'one personal/one FC per account, per server' suggestion.

At this point I honestly don't care if they grandfather hoarders in (as long as they are prohibited from buying any more or relocating any existing homes until they are in compliance) if it would mean the difference between getting the restrictions implemented or not. I absolutely would not shed any tears for them if SE did decide to strip the hoarders of all their excess homes though, as that has long struck me as the fairest option.

This is what the maijorty of people who own multi houses have been saying..we followed SE rules wither people think the rules were right or wrong its what SE put in the game we did not bend or break any rules..as posted above SE put in player houses as a character base system not a account based system.. SE own wording says that. just grandfather us in lock us from transfer or buying n be done with it.

[Abelfei]

Dragonrage53 needs someone to give her a house, because otherwise she'll never quit being straight jelly of everyone who got them within ToS.

[Rymm]

This is what the maijorty of people who own multi houses have been saying..we followed SE rules wither people think the rules were right or wrong its what SE put in the game we did not bend or break any rules..as posted above SE put in player houses as a character base system not a account system.. SE own wording says that. just grandfather us in lock us from transfer or buying n be done with it.

You obviously missed part of my point in the section of my post you neglected to bold. I am absolutely in favor of stripping all your excess homes, for all of the reasons that have been repeated in this and other threads, ad nauseam. However I understand that SE may be worried about the torrent of b****ing and moaning that would no doubt gush from you and your fellow hoarders if they did this, so I would be willing to bite the bullet and and compromise by letting you keep them (for now and as long as heavy restrictions are still in place for those out of compliance) if that is what it would take to get the per-account housing cap implemented.

[Siniztor]

You obviously missed part of my point in the section of my post you neglected to bold. I am absolutely in favor of stripping all your excess homes, for all of the reasons that have been repeated in this and other threads, ad nauseam. However I understand that SE may be worried about the torrent of b****ing and moaning that would no doubt gush from you and your fellow hoarders if they did this, so I would be willing to bite the bullet and and compromise by letting you keep them (for now and as long as heavy restrictions are still in place for those out of compliance) if that is what it would take to get the per-account housing cap implemented.

yes such a bad bullet to bite..them not punishing people who broke no rules

[Rymm]

yes such a bad bullet to bite..them not punishing people who broke no rules

Just because something in the game negatively affects you, does not make it a punishment.
And, if they did strip excess houses, the owners should certainly get reimbursed and have a grace period in which to choose which they wanted to keep.

[Siniztor]

Just because something in the game negatively affects you, does not make it a punishment.
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Changing a rule then making it retro and taking away things people got by following the old rules to the letter is a punishment. If you did not break a rule and have stuff taken from you thats being punished for following the rules

pun·ish·ment

1 :the act of punishing
2 a :suffering, pain, or loss that serves as retribution
b :a penalty inflicted on an offender through judicial procedure
3 :severe, rough, or disastrous treatment

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punishment

[Rymm]

Changing a rule then making it retro and taking away things people got by following the old rules to the letter is a punishment.

Thank you for the link, but I am already sufficiently familiar with the definition of the word.

Arguing from your own copy/paste-
As a retroactive implementation of a per-account housing cap would serve as neither a form of retribution nor penalty through judicial procedure, then the only means you have as defining it as a 'punishment' would be your third option: 'severe, rough, or disastrous treatment.' That one, I am afraid, ultimately comes down to a matter of opinion.

I do not think that stripping excess houses would be 'severe, rough, or disastrous' as long as the owners were warned ahead of time, compensated for their purchases, and given time to decide what house to keep. You, obviously, feel differently. There is no objective way to determine which opinion is correct, so I guess we just have to agree to disagree on whether or not the term 'punishment' applies.

(For what it's worth, if you do feel like a retroactive per-account cap would constitute punishment under the third definition, then, by that same argument, players could cry 'punishment' any time a job gets nerfed, a fight gets tweaked, a drop-rate lowered, a price increased, or any other change is implemented, as long as it negatively affects them. Which is why it strikes me as a fairly weak argument to stand on.)