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  1. #11
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    If they were personal loot but a 1 in 24 drop rate then nothing would be any different. You want them to be personal loot and have a higher drop rate?
    No. It's a 1:99 drop with there being UP to 24 people, meaning 1/4 of those numbers are rolled basically, cutting the odds to roughly 1:24.75, or 1:24 for just going by how many people are in it

    I'd rather it be like the cards in dungeons/trials. We have to sometimes put up with up to 23 people being either hostile/trolls/people that don't give a damn about trying/ect

    I'd rather have EVERYONE have a chance on getting the card instead of only one person. I'd have people rub it in other peoples' faces when they got the new cards, only to have gotten them previously and going to 'throw it away for MGP'.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    Rather, please make it so that all people who had already obtained the cards cannot NEED on the cards. Set it so they have lower priority and can only GREED. Because you know, people can and will NEED to compete against others if they have the access to NEED the things they had already obtained.
    I've made a suggestion about that before, and a lot of the player base was split on it. Some people even saying

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
    I want any free MGP I can get, so I will always roll need. Fight me.
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  2. #12
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    I know they made Crystal Tower stuff be per party chest at some point during HW. The cards in WoD used to be in the chest but they switched that to rng direct drop. I'm pretty sure the raid specific drops in The Shadow of Mhach raids are still a fistfight between all 24 people. It'll probably still be a while before they change that too and maybe some point after that it'll be direct drop as well.
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  3. #13
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    Rather, please make it so that all people who had already obtained the cards cannot NEED on the cards. Set it so they have lower priority and can only GREED. Because you know, people can and will NEED to compete against others if they have the access to NEED the things they had already obtained.
    I think this would be a reasonable solution to the issue. That way people can get what they need, and others can get what they want.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  4. #14
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    Altena Trife
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    Just make it so you can only NEED on it if you don't have it in your deck yet. GREED if you have it, just so it doesn't hit the floor when it gets to the point of everyone owning it.
    I end up rolling need on all of it because I keep forgetting what I have already got.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    Rather, please make it so that all people who had already obtained the cards cannot NEED on the cards. Set it so they have lower priority and can only GREED. Because you know, people can and will NEED to compete against others if they have the access to NEED the things they had already obtained.
    Looks like someone beat me to it.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    The problem with cards is that even if you already have the card/s you can still role on it to hand in for MGP. You can't do that with minions so as a result the cards will always be hard to get.
    I think it was Weeping City I encountered a 3 of the same cards chest in, and I rolled Need on all 3 and got 1. Now if I ever see that card again I will pass, out of common courtesy. I know there are a lot of people involved in rolling for raid loot so I don't roll if I don't need it. Of course, I'm probably in the minority in this case lol
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

  6. #16
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    Kingmanath Toriktai
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    Or allow people to get them beating a npc (even if it's hard) like the one in Mor Dhona for crystal tower ones.
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  7. #17
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    I'm in agreement. The issue with raid cards is that there's no incentive for people not to roll on them if they already have them because they can be traded in for MGP. Someone who is unlucky, then, can literally do a raid every week and still miss out.
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  8. #18
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I just wish the game had an indicator in the loot table of whether the card (or minion/mount) is owned or not, that would fix most of your problem
    Need if not owning it already and Greed if someone want it for the MGP
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  9. #19
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I just wish the game had an indicator in the loot table of whether the card (or minion/mount) is owned or not, that would fix most of your problem
    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Just make it so you can only NEED on it if you don't have it in your deck yet. GREED if you have it, just so it doesn't hit the floor when it gets to the point of everyone owning it.
    I end up rolling need on all of it because I keep forgetting what I have already got.
    And I quote -

    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    Well some people actually need MGP. Why should someone "needing" the card be more important than someone "needing" MGP? Who gets to make that judgement call? Because it seems to be a matter of opinion and I vote they are both equally "needed" and to leave the rolling system alone on this one. Everyone being able to roll need still gives everyone an equal chance at getting it. Fair is fair.
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  10. #20
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingmanath View Post
    Or allow people to get them beating a npc (even if it's hard) like the one in Mor Dhona for crystal tower ones.
    I think this would be an ideal solution and it saddens me that they didn't do that more. People who want the card for plain MGP can rot with the RNG, they have other ways to get it. But if you want the actual card, you should have other venues to get it too, rather than complete current casual end-game content with 24 other people where you're likely to disband at any point during the raid, and then have to fight 23 other people's luck if you somehow made it to the end. And that's if you don't frigging DC right before the chest drops smh
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 10-24-2017 at 05:42 PM.

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