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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Taylor, by today, I have very extensively tested many different rotations including the ones you listed on the original post of this thread. For the 1st one (RNG-free Initial Prep rotation), I gotta say, you beat me. I simply couldn't find any other ways to do it better. I have a few variants and they only got up to 18000-ish with my 1462 control. Yours, however, reaches 19804 with 1462 control.
    There’s a variant I use that has Ing2 for the finisher for about 21k quality total on the synth. It’s the best 2-step macro I can see possible at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueruckus View Post
    There’s a variant I use that has Ing2 for the finisher for about 21k quality total on the synth. It’s the best 2-step macro I can see possible at this point.
    How much control was the guy having though? I am now having nearly 1500 control, and I can get way more than 19K now with the same rotation.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    How much control was the guy having though? I am now having nearly 1500 control, and I can get way more than 19K now with the same rotation.
    Just under 21k at 1439 control. You have 4 hits of prudent under Ing1 and your finisher with Ing2. At 1500 control, you should have over 21k. This was with all normal hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueruckus View Post
    Just under 21k at 1439 control. You have 4 hits of prudent under Ing1 and your finisher with Ing2. At 1500 control, you should have over 21k. This was with all normal hits.
    Would you like to share this variant?
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Would you like to share this variant?
    This is from Bellator Gaius on Reddit. I was tinkering with a very similar rotation and he posted this one, which I feel tops anything else I’ve seen.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...I9&sh=58b9b1bc

    I don’t remember the exact craft required. When he posted originally he mentioned a craft number which was a lot higher than really needed. There’s a 1635 number mentioned now which I think may be more accurate but I’m not in game to check my info and notes.
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    Last edited by blueruckus; 10-24-2017 at 04:32 AM.

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    A possible improvement since we're talking endgame (Excluding augmented as there's an even better alternative)

    Bellator Gaius's gear: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13L5H

    Bellator Gaius's rotation (craftsmanship reduced to meet minimum craftsmanship requirements based on the sim):



    Gear alternative: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13P2M

    Rotation alternative:



    Essentially you reduce the required craftsmanship a lot & in exchange you use the unused cp instead. This does mean you can meld additional control instead of craftsmanship to improve the quality as that excess craftsmanship is going to waste:



    In this rotation we've reduced craftsmanship requirements by 53 & used the spare cp. Extra craftsmanship melds can be replaced by control melds which will improve quality further.
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    Last edited by tayler1480; 10-24-2017 at 08:26 AM.

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    Here is a small improvement I did to the MaMa rotation, I moved two prudent touches to the start of the rotations, this makes it so Ingenuity falls on prudent touches with more inner quiet stacks.



    If you do part of the flawless synth spam manually to get a tick proc you can first replace ingenuity with ingenuity II and if you get two procs add one before/after the second steady hand II.
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  8. 10-26-2017 09:17 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Very slight improvement to MaMa finisher, uses 1 less cp, and requires about 6 less control for same result. makes the melds slightly cheaper (can trade 1 control 6 for a control 4, and 1 cp 5 on the tool for a cp 4)
    Using your idea here this seems to work great.



    You botch a flawless synthesis at the start so you can add an additional flawless synthesis during the flawless synthesis stage between the 6th & 7th comfort zones. By doing this there's no way the craft can complete even if all flawless synthesis succeed so don't need to worry about there being a chance of having to activate comfort zone when you still have 1 comfort zone left.
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    So how do you get 476 CP?

    I've got the 290 gear pentamelded, and I am at 452. Or are you effectively saying need to hit 2 ToTs for this to work?
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    So how do you get 476 CP?

    I've got the 290 gear pentamelded, and I am at 452. Or are you effectively saying need to hit 2 ToTs for this to work?
    476 CP is achieved by capping CP on the new i320 left-side. As it increases the cap from 472 (i290), to 476.
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