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    Valdegarde's Avatar
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    Hildegarde Rosea
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I agree with almost everything you mentioned, especially that TBN shouldn't be thought of as a DPS tool. However, my frustrations with it ARE defensive-minded. Ideally it'd be wonderful to prime it up for those big hits, I don't think that kind of playstyle is in question, but trying to break it on all the "little" things (which aren't so little anymore in Stormblood...), speaking at least for myself, is not to eke the tiny bit of DPS out of TBN...it's because that's all we have to use! Rampart just doesn't cut it, and otherwise we're taking rather gnarly auto attacks and critical hits that matter and set healers back with only TBN and Souleater (ha!) in between busters. Trying to catch everything possible with TBN to earn your MT spot really straddles the line between fun (on some fights) and needlessly stressful (on most others) to me.

    If we did have enough cover between busters, such as...I don't know, for example, Heavensward Reprisal, I'd feel a lot less pressured to break or blow TBN on anything over 10k damage.

    I feel like this has all been mentioned before, but I really just want to reiterate that not everybody finds TBN fun as a defensive tool, since the discussion about it tends to devolve into DPS frequently.
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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    I agree with almost everything you mentioned, especially that TBN shouldn't be thought of as a DPS tool. However, my frustrations with it ARE defensive-minded. Ideally it'd be wonderful to prime it up for those big hits, I don't think that kind of playstyle is in question, but trying to break it on all the "little" things (which aren't so little anymore in Stormblood...), speaking at least for myself, is not to eke the tiny bit of DPS out of TBN...it's because that's all we have to use! Rampart just doesn't cut it, and otherwise we're taking rather gnarly auto attacks and critical hits that matter and set healers back with only TBN and Souleater (ha!) in between busters. Trying to catch everything possible with TBN to earn your MT spot really straddles the line between fun (on some fights) and needlessly stressful (on most others) to me.

    If we did have enough cover between busters, such as...I don't know, for example, Heavensward Reprisal, I'd feel a lot less pressured to break or blow TBN on anything over 10k damage.

    I feel like this has all been mentioned before, but I really just want to reiterate that not everybody finds TBN fun as a defensive tool, since the discussion about it tends to devolve into DPS frequently.
    Oh I feel ya. I fully support making TBN a little more forgiving to use. (Longer shield duration or something funky like break 20% shield into 2x10% shields, if 1 breaks you get the payback etc). TBN is already the centerpiece of Drks overall mitigation and 'utlity' wrapped up into 1 and it is slightly underperforming in both areas. Drk also is behind in DPS. TBN should not be the 1 stop shop for everything wrong with drk by making it the center of their damage rotation as well. I really don't want to see DPS buffs become the centerpiece of TBN. Leave it DPS neutral, make it a little 'safer' to use in reliably recouping the blood for the MP. But dear lord don't make it some big DPS buff. Then we will just have the complaints that Drk cant maintain DPS with other tanks and use their mitigation/utility properly at the same time because they will all share the same button.

    Let TBN do its job a little better. Fix Drk DPS somewhere else. Theres no shortage of weak/mediocre skills to do that with.
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