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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Both of these options that WHM has are better than Earthly Star and Indom.
    It's better in numbers, yes, but as an effective heal, I do think Indom and Earthly Star has it beat.
    I just notice Indom and Earthly Star so much more than a Medica + Assize/Plenary. It just feels so much more powerful.

    But I think we've gotten quite off topic. I was never arguing that a WHM can't match a SCH or AST with their large heals. I originally brought it up to compare how powerful certain tools feel in comparison to WHM, which doesn't exactly have anything that truly feels powerful and unique to itself anymore. And that a AOE Divine Bension, if nerfed, wouldn't be as broken as people seem to think.
    Would a mitigation CD that matches the strength of a Succor or Aspected Helios really be such a big deal when Indom and Earthly Star exists?
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    It's better in numbers, yes, but as an effective heal, I do think Indom and Earthly Star has it beat.
    I just notice Indom and Earthly Star so much more than a Medica + Assize/Plenary. It just feels so much more powerful.
    It feels more powerful....but it actually isn't based on math...so sorry I just don't understand your issue with this. I mean that is your opinion that Indom and Earthly Star feel more powerful, but the math shows that your opinion doesn't match the facts.

    So yeah you can feel that way about it, but it doesn't make it true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Would a mitigation CD that matches the strength of a Succor or Aspected Helios really be such a big deal when Indom and Earthly Star exists?
    You remember that post awhile back in this thread where you said that the problem is that healers can do too much now? You're making it worse again.

    WHM cannot have a shield that has the same power as SCH or Nocturnal AST shields. WHM is not a shield healer. If you want shields like that then go play SCH or Nocturnal AST. Like I said before people have to stop coveting things other jobs have in their toolkits and trying to make it so they have everything all the other jobs have, if you want what another job has then go play that job. WHM isn't a shielder job so if you want shields there are two other choices.

    Giving WHM too much shielding you might as well hold a funeral for SCH, because they gonna be real dead.

    A very weak long cooldown aoe shield would be the only thing even acceptable for WHM to get in order to avoid messing up the nice level of balance we have going right now, but this is that homogenization problem again; you want WHM to have everything the other healers have. WHM doesn't NEED everything the other healers have just like AST doesn't need everything WHM has or SCH doesn't need everything AST has.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-23-2017 at 01:10 PM.