Restricting houses to one per account!!!

[Sotatsu]

you show me 1 rule from SE that says i'm abusing any thing please i beg you.

Actually, there are no rule that says such thing.

However, you should read the penultimate post of this thread, written by Valenth (and please everyone, do not post on this thread. It's pretty old now):
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...1-ward./page12

Pay attention to this quote of Yoshida:

Fundamental Pricing Stance

Our fundamental stance toward housing prices was that we wanted to ensure that plots would be evenly distributed, avoiding a situation in which the wealthiest players could easily buy up all available plots of land. Please understand that while we will be adding servers and expanding housing areas as soon as we can, it is simply physically impossible for us to accomplish this easily, in a matter of one or two weeks.

If the initial price of land was easily within the means of wealthy players, one can envision all available plots of land being snatched up immediately, leaving other players—even those possessing the necessary gil—unable to purchase land for an extended period of time. Seeking to avoid this, we made the difficult decision to go forward with the pricing scheme we presented, aware that many players would be unable to afford housing for a while.

I think it's clear that Yoshida doesn't want to see multiple houses in the hands of 1 single rich player. So yes, there are no rules to stop you, but still, you are not using the system as intended.
The housing system is suffering of a bad game design, and by possessing 3 houses, you are exploiting it.

That's why this system need a complete rework, or at least a retroactive rules update that prevent anyone to buy more than 2 houses: one for you and one for your FC.
The best solution would be instanced housing with unlimited supply in my opinion, but that decision belongs to SE.

[Penthea]

I think it's clear that Yoshida don't want to see multiple houses in the hands of 1 single rich player. So yes, there are no rules to stop you, but still, you are not using the system as intended.

The housing system is suffering of a bad game design, and by possessing 3 houses, you are exploiting it.

Well it's going to be interesting to see how Siniztor is going to try to spin this one. SE already made measures to hinder players like him in the past. They'll do it again if they think they have to...and well Shirogane made it obvious that this is one of several things they need to address.

[Hestzhyen]

Well it's going to be interesting to see how Siniztor is going to try to spin this one. SE already made measures to hinder players like him in the past. They'll do it again if they think they have to...and well Shirogane made it obvious that this is one of several things they need to address.

There's been no spin, just refutations based on "system didn't stop me so obviously it's ok". It's like the people at work who use the "free water bottles for employees" perk as a licence to take a whole 24-pack home. Everyone who understands and abides by the intention is SOL when the ***hole takes advantage of it and causes the nice thing to go away.

[SunahYhisa]

Kind of sad doing a quest and the guy was talking about how much I liked my house and how I should add a stable to it... But... I don't have a house

[Acilith]

the greedy players would not cause too much trouble in the grand scheme of things. Unfortunately, here we are.

The grand scheme of things is that there's simply not enough houses even with people who have multiple houses. There's not enough. I'd hardly even call it a 'dent' if they put a hard limit on how many an account could own. The wards need to be done away with and everyone needs their own instanced homes.

You constantly use your irl extra payments as a form of elevating yourself above other players.

Don't forget that people with more than 1 char per server literally do pay more to play than people with 1 char per server. Their subscription is priced higher already. No server moving necessary, they already pay more than others do just to access alts.


Why SHOULDN'T each individual character have their own house? If it's something they advertise on their website to draw in new players, why shouldn't each and every character (alt or not) have their own home? SE made this artificial scarcity, so don't get mad at the players or bash players for it. Bash SE for it. Using all these IRL analogies like water bottles for employees? What? Housing isn't something nice they decided to 'give' to us for fun, it's a faucet of the game that THOUSANDS can't enjoy. Whether or not they apply a limit, they already set hurdles in place. This is an internet house in a game we all pay to play, we should all have an internet house. All of us. New players, veteran players, alts, we should all have access to housing. They make so much money off of our subs and the cash shop there's just no reason for the shortage.

[Penthea]

Why SHOULDN'T each individual character have their own house?

Well if you look a few posts before you'll see Yoshi himself talked about a change to the system to discourage this.

Yes it would be nice if we could have a home for every character but there isn't even enough for every player. As long as we have extremely limited supply of housing, then the amount of houses a player can have in a single server should also be limited to reflect this.

Don't get me wrong. I hate this system. I despise it so much and the lack of foresight that went into it is so amazingly terrible it bounces between being hilarious and downright frustrating. But despite being proven several times for many years that it just isn't working, SE seem determined to hang to it anyway. So the most realistic improvements we can hope for are adjustments to it. Not something as ideal as enough housing to the point of excess for everyone.

Especially considering that we know we will be getting more wards in 4.2. No way is there going to be something huge and amazing to replace the ward system at that point because there simply isn't enough time, unless it's been in the works for a very long time and somehow zero about it got leaked.

Hoping for the best, but expecting not much of anything : /

Don't forget that people with more than 1 char per server literally do pay more to play than people with 1 char per server. Their subscription is priced higher already. No server moving necessary, they already pay more than others do just to access alts.

I have paid the sub to allow for alts without pause for over two years and I don't consider myself to have anymore rights to anything than a sprout paying for just one character per server. Certainly not extra houses when there are so few already. The only veteran rewards should be those that SE hand out themselves into our mail boxes.

[Siniztor]

Well it's going to be interesting to see how Siniztor is going to try to spin this one. SE already made measures to hinder players like him in the past. They'll do it again if they think they have to...and well Shirogane made it obvious that this is one of several things they need to address.

I see what he said 4 years ago. many houses updates since still allowed to buy a house on alts following the rules. it may not be what he intended 4 years ago. but its been allowed. like you said "these players bought the land fair and square cannot be disputed."

But Penthea id like to point out your words from your mouth 2 post above it

"It's a crappy situation but the fact that these players bought the land fair and square cannot be disputed. They had the resources and they were available to purchase. The land belongs to them and no one has the right to guilt them into letting it go just because someone else wants it. If they start house flipping that's another thing altogether. It still doesn't negate their right to ownership if they bought it from the game with gil.

The hate should be directed at SE for having a system so broken that the actions of a minority can have massive negative impact"

and to think that was only a few months ago
Ive never agreed with you more

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...1-ward./page12

[ZStar]

One solution would be this:

(Instance house/or maybe even plot housing)
Have an NPC that sells ghost plots. Meaning paying for a plot that doesn't exist in the game. So long you have the money you can just pay it.
Pros: Zero randomnesses, Zero obstructions and 100% availability so long you have the GIL.

[If instance]
Then once it is paid, you will immediately receive the plot

[If normal plot]
Then once it is paid, you wait for the next "Ghost housing implementation patch day" where Square Enix will launch those houses for people used the NPC to buy the house. That way there will be no oversupply and won't stress the server. You will get it eventually maybe wait for a month or two instead of never getting it. This will also give you (developers) time to put in plots/wards that will balance out demand/supply. Everyone will get a house, so long they can pay for it. That should be the only ceiling of getting the house.

Also, 1 house for personal and 1 for FC. This is key.

[ZStar]

Change apartment to Condominium

The condominium will be a duplex type condo meaning there will be two floors and will be the size of a small house. A balcony can be purchased as an upgrade for gardening.

Put fun into getting a condo, you can add Condominium utility which everyone in that condo unit can share these utilities, these utilities would be:

1) A gym - training dummies for everyone to use
2) A SWIMMING POOL (So people can swim and stuff)
3) Workshop (Where people can use crafting station for a small fee)
4) BBQ pit! People can buy food there and be a gather spot for people to chill and meet with her condominium owners!
5) ChocoPark (Carpark) where you can park your chocobo there and do Chocobo stuff
6) Condo transport to people to Exploratory Voyages.

These will help because you will then eliminate the need for people to get their own house because they can do everything in it!~
PLUS IT IS AN INSTANCE thus helping with the server stress if any.

[Solarra]

I support restricting houses to one personal and one FC house per account. I'm not so naive as to imagine it will solve the housing shortage, but it will certainly help.
If implementing this has the additional perk of allowing alts to share houses, I'd be very happy indeed.
I neither need nor want a house for every alt I've made, but I would like my alts to be able to use my main's house.