Blizzard II, Scathe, Freeze, and Sleep, do they have a purpose anymore

[Eloah]

So does anyone know what these skills actually are supposed to do because they seem like the most useless of the entire kit right now. Every other skill has a definitive use and can be used quite often as needed. But these four make no sense.

Blizzard II is supposed to mimic Fire II, as the AoE Blizzard. But, besides being at a low level AoE Blizzard isn't really a thing.

Scathe is the instant cast skill but its only 100 potency with a chance to be doubled but besides that rare instance of me using there is no reason to use it, and depending on how i have to move i either use Aetherial Manipulation or am to focused on avoiding an AoE to use the skill.

Freeze is probably the "most" useful of the skills, for 2 reasons. If you are at higher levels, once it is available, using Freeze over Blizzard to maintain Umbral Ice is preferred if you have multiple enemies. not to mention slightly MP efficient; but Umbral Ice infinite MP, lol. But why can't it do more, to make it something that feels nice to use. Oh and the other thing is we can still use it out of battle so there's that too, XD

and Sleep... well I don't think I need to mention that one so much, most people are still baffled by it still being in the game, along with Repose.

[Hestzhyen]

Limited use, but I used Repose as a WHM during combat quests when it got annoying to deal with more than one thing at a time. Focus one down while the others are sleeping and it gets much easier. But since all the important bosses we'd want to use status effects like Sleep and Repose on are immune to them, it's kind of lame to have once you're done those quests. (Notice no one has a paralysis skill too- only stuns and silences, of which only the former is genuinely useful in most content!) It's a minor case of dead skills resulting from old design philosophy I think. They aren't totally useless but the cases in which you'd WANT to use them are limited or, past a certain point for some of them, non-existent.

[Remedi]

I'm honestly more curious on why they passed the pruning pass

[SunahYhisa]

I use repose as a WHM while I level and sometimes when an add jumps in while we are in a fight in a dungeon ill knock it into the other enemies or use sleep to keep it from raping my bung hole.

[Cynfael]

WHM Repose and BLM Sleep can go die in a fire since the devs don't make them useful for anything but low level solo questing. I'd rather see them removed altogether.

Freeze has been useless in PvE for a very long time; no idea why it hasn't been reworked. With the way Umbral Hearts and Flares work, Freeze isn't even good for mass AoE anymore; after casting B4 and T4, it's back to Astral again.

Scathe is so situational and ideally so infrequently used that it's not something I can be bothered to hotkey. It would be nice if it felt a little less punishing to use (movement or no, blowing a GCD on a 100 base potency, non-aspected single-target attack makes for sad BLM).

[Lelila38]

I use scathe for moving, but mainly out of habit since it basically doesn't do any dmg. The rest I don't haven't had on my skillbar for ages.
I heard Freeze is good in pvp though.

[NovaLevossida]

Blizzard II: Good to use to accidentally lock you out of Enochian.

Freeze: Good to use if diversion / lucid are somehow down on an add phase or trash pack and you're feeling exceptionally generous by limiting your DPS.

Scathe: Good to use when you've already used swift / triple / aetherial / between the lines and they're all on cooldown and your teammates in the 24-man raid keep dying and thus more mechanics keep targeting you instead of them as you prolong an inevitable wipe.

Sleep: Good to use in the 1% of situations in the game where CC is applicable which also happen to be the content so easy that it doesn't matter, even in Brayflox.

[Remedi]

I use scathe for moving, but mainly out of habit since it basically doesn't do any dmg. The rest I don't haven't had on my skillbar for ages.
I heard Freeze is good in pvp though.

Freeze in pvp shares the same skill slot as polyglot and flare and they do basically the same thing, so ye they could do something for PVE too

[KDSilver]

Their idea by deleting useless skills in Stormblood was to have approximatively the same number as before and get new ones.
The thing is, blm never had a lot a buttons (like scholar for example).
So... even if they would delete those... it doesn't mean they would add new spells.

In other words, some might be extremely situational, other completely useless, but as long as blm will have some place on his toolkit.. they'll always be here.

[Silver-Strider]

Honestly, I felt Sleep and Repose were perfect candidates for Cross Role skills and was shocked when they weren't put into that list and removed from WHM and BLM