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  1. #61
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    That's a HUGE difference holy crap glad you brought that up that we're down to 6 vs PLDs mega 12 I hope SE realizes this, also can you edit into War as well?
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  2. #62
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    Heleth's Avatar
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    Serin Raem
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Posts like these really make me want to level my DK... Have warrior at 70, and dk and paladin at 60.... Goin to level one of them next, and the forums have actually convinced me to level Dark knight....Alot of really good feedback here, and honestly I'd be surprised if at least some of these suggestions doesnt make it live... All I can say is the quality of life changes made to warrior are great.... Especially the ones made to shake it off...

    As far as I can tell in SB, paladins are great, warriors are also great at the moment, leaving dk the only tank job....Pretty sure they'll have a look at that next....
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  3. #63
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Nice in you, DRK is in a horrible state and SE needs to hear you guys.

    I only wish Monks were as loud...
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  4. #64
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    Nivarea's Avatar
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    C'lhen Madder
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Nice in you, DRK is in a horrible state and SE needs to hear you guys.

    I only wish Monks were as loud...
    Monk was my first DPS class in HW I leveled up to 60, and I finished to level it to 70 3/4 days ago.

    While its damage is mostly fine compared to other DPS contrary to DRK compared to other Tank, it shares the same problems of being noticibly harder to play to have the same result (I also got my Samurai to 70). Tackle Mastery is a total joke, RoE is disapointing and also makes TK more undesirable as of now (which is unchanged, another disapointement) and RoF feels sooooo slow. Concerning Deep Meditation and Brotherhood, I like the idea behind, to play more with chakras, but there is two problems : 1, we only use it on forbidden chakra, purification is useless now that Monk basically have infinite TP, why not add more chakra skills ? ; and 2, it's composition and luck dependant.You got a caster heavy party ? Well, you're out of luck. And even without composition, it's RNG dependant, so when parsing, doing the exact same performance on how you play, the numbers varies heavily depending on your luck with procing chakras.

    I'm focusing to DRK right now as it's my Main, but Monk is not fine on a playstyle level. Sad for what was at first "Monk expansion" (but it isn't, it's Samurai expansion). So you have my sympathy, and I hope it'll get fixed alongside DRK.
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  5. #65
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    Mattiux's Avatar
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    Mattiux Black
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I'm gonna join this protest too.


    Currently levelling my Warrior but leaving my beloved DK behind really break my heart.


    Besides all the problem on the individual skill, and the weak one without any reason (pointing at you living dead), the worst part is that DK is not fun anymore.


    Outside AOE environment, the single target tanking became boring and lackluster.


    on top of that my static run with 3 ranged 1 drg meele static, due to preferences on job playstyle. So i've no reason to trade off the slashing debuff, the warrior dps AND the raid mitigation utility that warrior now offer.
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    Last edited by Mattiux; 10-20-2017 at 07:24 PM.

  6. #66
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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Just a quick word about viability and buffs...
    Yeah, this, a million times over, for every person that sticks their heads in these threads and is like "hey DRK can clear content" as if to say of a '73 Dodge Dart "hey I can crank the ignition".
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  7. #67
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Lol ran void ark to level my ninja with the new alliance roulette. Thought I'd capture this.

    https://imgur.com/a/ZELWw

    Typical 24 player content, no one actually picking anything and a Bard ended up tanking sawtooth. Needless to say jokes about dark knight started a flying.

    But hey, DRK has a new utility, drk brings joy to people's lives through humor
    that just sounds like a bad drk , drk really isnt that horrible , and seems like people hate it more with the new shake it off buff
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  8. #68
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    that just sounds like a bad drk , drk really isnt that horrible , and seems like people hate it more with the new shake it off buff
    I’m pretty sure no dark knights were in the party, it was paladins and a warrior. But I’m not 100% sure.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 10-21-2017 at 12:12 AM.

  9. #69
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    Shinkyo's Avatar
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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    That's a HUGE difference holy crap glad you brought that up that we're down to 6 vs PLDs mega 12 I hope SE realizes this, also can you edit into War as well?
    Not that it changes the conclusion but you can’t just look at the # of skills to compare their options.
    TBN alone is a weaker alternative to intervention, cover and even clemency (i.e. raises your eHP in a different way). Due to the short CD, it can cover scenarios where you’d need multiple skills from other jobs.

    For every situation PLD uses cover/intervention/clemency, DRK can use TBN as a weaker alternative.
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  10. #70
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I’m pretty sure no dark knights were in the party, it was paladins and a warrior. But I’m not 100% sure.
    im confused then haha , but I just hate how much a fav job of mine is getting hate, it could be in a better spot for sure but it isnt like horrible like all these threads are suggesting
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