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    tymora's Avatar
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Some of the recipes can simply be guessed by using this much underrated skill called "common sense".
    Would you put parts together with a Saw or a Claw Hammer(Carpenter)? Saw represents Craftsmanship, Claw Hammer M.Craftsmanship.

    Would you make powders with an alembic or a mortar?

    Would you make thread with a spinner or a needle?

    Some might be hard to decide if both tools are equally suited/unsuited for making an item but those can usually be decided in 1 or 2 tries in their category (aka All cloth are physical and dyeing them is magical). Unfortunately the game can't account for every tool possible in the world so we have to live with it. (No loom to make cloth)
    E.g. Cloth dyeing...nothing to do with spinner but is magical. I would use a simple bucket of dye and dip the cloth there but I digress.

    If you want to be a decent crafter in this game, or in any MMO, open your eyes, observe and note things down.
    After that, bolster your own notes with online information and contribute whatever that is missing to the databases. That is the community spirit.

    Why play the guessing game? Because it IS part of the game of crafting.
    Why guess where the mines are in Minesweeper? Because that IS part of the game of minesweeper. (the other part is to continually beat your own times)
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    Last edited by tymora; 11-15-2011 at 03:33 AM.

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    MANTASTIC's Avatar
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    Mantastic Voyage
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Some of the recipes can simply be guessed by using this much underrated skill called "common sense".
    Would you put parts together with a Saw or a Claw Hammer(Carpenter)? Saw represents Craftsmanship, Claw Hammer M.Craftsmanship.

    Would you make powders with an alembic or a mortar?

    Would you make thread with a spinner or a needle?

    Some might be hard to decide if both tools are equally suited/unsuited for making an item but those can usually be decided in 1 or 2 tries in their category (aka All cloth are physical and dyeing them is magical). Unfortunately the game can't account for every tool possible in the world so we have to live with it. (No loom to make cloth)
    E.g. Cloth dyeing...nothing to do with spinner but is magical. I would use a simple bucket of dye and dip the cloth there but I digress.

    If you want to be a decent crafter in this game, or in any MMO, open your eyes, observe and note things down.
    After that, bolster your own notes with online information and contribute whatever that is missing to the databases. That is the community spirit.

    Why play the guessing game? Because it IS part of the game of crafting.
    Why guess where the mines are in Minesweeper? Because that IS part of the game of minesweeper. (the other part is to continually beat your own times)
    Totally agree, a player should be expected to intuitively know whether craftsmanship or magic craftsmanship are required for a recipe...in a game that doesn't explain what either one does to the player, forcing them to stumble around blindly or look up information online. Right.
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    Last edited by MANTASTIC; 11-15-2011 at 06:05 AM. Reason: grammarz

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    Player Burrmanchu's Avatar
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    Burr Manchu
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Some of the recipes can simply be guessed by using this much underrated skill called "common sense".
    Would you put parts together with a Saw or a Claw Hammer(Carpenter)? Saw represents Craftsmanship, Claw Hammer M.Craftsmanship.

    Would you make powders with an alembic or a mortar?

    Would you make thread with a spinner or a needle?

    Some might be hard to decide if both tools are equally suited/unsuited for making an item but those can usually be decided in 1 or 2 tries in their category (aka All cloth are physical and dyeing them is magical). Unfortunately the game can't account for every tool possible in the world so we have to live with it. (No loom to make cloth)
    E.g. Cloth dyeing...nothing to do with spinner but is magical. I would use a simple bucket of dye and dip the cloth there but I digress.

    If you want to be a decent crafter in this game, or in any MMO, open your eyes, observe and note things down.
    After that, bolster your own notes with online information and contribute whatever that is missing to the databases. That is the community spirit.

    Why play the guessing game? Because it IS part of the game of crafting.
    Why guess where the mines are in Minesweeper? Because that IS part of the game of minesweeper. (the other part is to continually beat your own times)
    100% agree, but there is times when "wtf? do i make cloth with a needle?".... it wouldnt be a horrible thing if they just told you what hand to use, or even made it mandatory based on the synth. I know I'd appreciate it.
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