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  1. #41
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    Aeducan's Avatar
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    Kaho Saionji
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    @tinythinker

    Hats off to you milady/milord, for having such tenacity in spite of adversaries. Healing does not come naturally for everyone, but I wholeheartedly agree with Kabzy that your attitude will take you very far should you decide to stick with the role/job. Like Moro, we're on the same datacenter and it'd be my honour to co-heal with you sometimes. My friends and I run random things regularly and I could definitely introduce you to them if you'd like. That way you don't have to play with strangers 99.9% of the time anymore (nothing wrong with this if this is your preference)

    P.S. If you're interested in learning about Astrologian, I'd be more than happy to guide you through the job. I'm not a pro myself, but I have solid understanding about this job and its roles.
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  2. #42
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    Obsidia's Avatar
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    Lexian Shadowfire
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Really surprised so many responded to my post back on Page 1 there haha! Read some friendly, helpful advice from some cool people =). I used to be scared of tanking until I just dived in and learned it as I went. I suppose it's only natural to do the same for anything else. I'll have to give Scholar a go since I heard the MP costs got toned down a bit. DPS feels very low stress because I neither lead the entire party nor am the sole responsibility for keeping everyone alive at all times. Yes, DPS are needed just as much but it feels very different from my perspective. I'll just keep queuing on heals and get used to it a little at a time. Maybe someday it'll be a second nature yawn-fest for me haha.

    Perhaps being DPS, there's something I find disturbing about having no rotation, so it's like, "...What am I supposed to be doing? Why are these guides so non specific!?" Even tanking I have enmity and damage combos/rotations xD
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  3. #43
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    Kabzy's Avatar
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidia View Post
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    You picked the right healer at least. Compared to the other two Scholars at least have a bit more to it. You can think about incorporating Dissipation into your DPS which requires some pre-planning on Aetherflow CDs and then you get to weave in Energy Drains with Miasma if you have free stacks to use and providing you keep an eye on your MP. Unfortunately it doesn’t get more involved than that, but at least it goes slightly above the DoT and nuke spam the other healers have to deal with.
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  4. #44
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Aww, a little off topic but you sound really pleasant and I hope you stick with WHM if it's what you enjoy the most. That little snippet above is why I think you'll go far if you invest time in the job. That kind of mindset is what makes good players, it's the stubborn ones who refuse to learn that end up staying trash forever.

    Rectify mistakes as well as you can and stick with it!

    P.S. - We all felt the Bardam struggle, you're definitely not alone in that.
    I did really like 3.0 SCH but I confess I never really got into the guts of my faeries, which sounds... I never got too deep into the effective use and inner workings of faeries. Like the Tactics moves and what not. I figure once I get comfortable on the WHM I might try SCH again. As for sounding pleasant, it's a good thing I have to keep my voice chats on mute or people would hear things like, "Why the @#^ is the tank's health dropping so fast with only one mob at half health... isn't that ability off cool-down yet... what the #@$% just killed me, I didn't see anything hit..."

    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I would like to second, third and fourth this!

    Seriously though, that's a good attitude to have going into healing. Also tinythinker if you ever want to run things together we are on the same data center and my discord is in my signature. So its only you and 2-22 strangers.
    Well, I keep my voice com muted for a variety of reasons but I could still type for invite to a party and listen to directions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeducan View Post
    @tinythinker

    Hats off to you milady/milord, for having such tenacity in spite of adversaries. Healing does not come naturally for everyone, but I wholeheartedly agree with Kabzy that your attitude will take you very far should you decide to stick with the role/job. Like Moro, we're on the same datacenter and it'd be my honour to co-heal with you sometimes. My friends and I run random things regularly and I could definitely introduce you to them if you'd like. That way you don't have to play with strangers 99.9% of the time anymore (nothing wrong with this if this is your preference)

    P.S. If you're interested in learning about Astrologian, I'd be more than happy to guide you through the job. I'm not a pro myself, but I have solid understanding about this job and its roles.
    Not sure kudos for putting up with some bad runs and ungenerous players while trying to make fewer mistakes are deserved, but the encouragement from the thread is welcome. My DF runs are based on the need for roulette rewards and my on/off cycle with the game; it's definitely a gamble but it's also great practice at my jobs, at patience, and at getting comfortable with failure and the unexpected in the game. I read AST guides when I unlocked and leveled it over the summer, but I still think not being familiar with the mechanics of bosses and other jobs will be a limiting factor to effectiveness. It does seem fun in solo content though. If I hop back on AST your help will be appreciated.
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    Last edited by tinythinker; 10-18-2017 at 10:42 AM. Reason: edited for length

  5. #45
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    noct_lyuis's Avatar
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    Noc't Lyuis
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    Tonberry
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Really good points, to add though
    My reason for trying out level 70 rotations for all classes
    Is to know the struggles of the other players and how to make them perform better.

    If a tank uses convalescence early (might mean their comfort zones are low), or if they're handling CD's well. If your MNK ate minimal aoe's, so that his stacks won't fall off, you'd get why they do that. And that makes you a better player overall.
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  6. #46
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    Well, I keep my voice com muted for a variety of reasons but I could still type for invite to a party and listen to directions.
    Awesome! I find discord to be handy for setting up cross world parties particularly. I actually responded to your big pull thread with this as a suggestion. Add me if you get a chance and we can set up a time to run some things
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  7. #47
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lannybaby View Post
    When I don't dps, I still get yelled at: "don't just stand there, do something!" <-- this was the most recent one. I don't know where they come from, maybe they're in a cult.
    You're going to pull a lot of hate on you !!!
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  8. #48
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    Grailer Deity
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I just got game about 18 days ago I think . Been going through story and doing the dungeons and trials required . At level 63 now . 100% success on every dungeon or trial but had the odd death / wipe happen sometimes but always win usually 2nd attempt if the mechanics are tough.

    Last trial I did The Pool of Tribute I had 2 people giving me grief saying I wasnt healing and saying "Bad healer is bad healer" ( the 2 players had same second name ) now the interesting thing is we won fight and I thought I was healing . We did wipe first attempt and I had no idea what to expect mechanic wise so had to learn the hard way .
    2nd attempt I knew what to expect and we got through it . Why would people be toxic after a success or are they just being elitist jerks?
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  9. #49
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grail3r View Post
    I just got game about 18 days ago I think . Been going through story and doing the dungeons and trials required . At level 63 now . 100% success on every dungeon or trial but had the odd death / wipe happen sometimes but always win usually 2nd attempt if the mechanics are tough.

    Last trial I did The Pool of Tribute I had 2 people giving me grief saying I wasnt healing and saying "Bad healer is bad healer" ( the 2 players had same second name ) now the interesting thing is we won fight and I thought I was healing . We did wipe first attempt and I had no idea what to expect mechanic wise so had to learn the hard way .
    2nd attempt I knew what to expect and we got through it . Why would people be toxic after a success or are they just being elitist jerks?
    Sounds like you were stuck with players who expected that everyone know the fight even when there are one or more first-timers. Yes, people tend to be impatient, but I like to think that most of them understand to an extent if there are first-timers present.
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  10. #50
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    Koppo Sandstar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Healing doesn't depend on combos, timers, or positioning. Encounters are thoroughly scripted
    Umm, healers don't depend on timers? What would you call boss abilities? I'm pretty sure most groups would prefer for the SCH or Noct AST shields to be ready before taking damage from a big hitting ability. Of for the AST to have their earthly star fully charged in time to heal through a given attack. Or for the healers to generate enough healing between 2 subsequent abilities so the group doesn't die. Healers may not have many personal timers, but you're lying if you try to argue their gameplay isn't dictated by ANY timers.
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