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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoreka View Post
    "Dear Aoreka,

    Thank you for contacting the FINAL FANTASY XIV support desk.

    We are sorry to hear that there are differences of opinion on what is deemed to be acceptable in the Novice Network.

    Due to the nature of the Novice Network, what is deemed to be acceptable is widely different from World to World. We encourage players to cultivate their World's Novice Network culture and remove Mentors or New Adventurers based on that standard.

    As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive, we suggest to temporarily remove them. If the player in question removes another player for a reason that is generally not deemed to be sufficient, it is acceptable to remove them as well.

    Thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience caused."
    If it's not asking too much, could you post a screenshot of this reply? If this is true this is a troubling stance they are taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    If it's not asking too much, could you post a screenshot of this reply? If this is true this is a troubling stance they are taking.
    Sure thing.

    Part 1: https://puu.sh/y0fjY/e9ef498d0b.png
    Part 2: https://puu.sh/y0fkW/626b5ce403.png

    I also have the entire chat log that led to the report if you want, but it will take quite a few screens. I'd rather not though as I don't want Eve to be harassed. If you want it, it will have to be in PM.
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    Last edited by Aoreka; 10-18-2017 at 02:08 AM. Reason: I'm awake now...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoreka View Post
    Sure thing.

    Part 1: https://puu.sh/y0fjY/e9ef498d0b.png
    Part 2: https://puu.sh/y0fkW/626b5ce403.png

    I also have the entire chat log that led to the report if you want, but it will take quite a few screens. I'd rather not though as I don't want Eve to be harassed. If you want it, it will have to be in PM.
    This isn't a witch hunt. Keep your 'evidence' to yourself.
    Even if his attitude has not been the best, the answer the GM gave him is still shocking to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    This isn't a witch hunt. Keep your 'evidence' to yourself.
    Even if his attitude has not been the best, the answer the GM gave him is still shocking to me.
    Did you get hurt when you threw yourself into my conversation? lol. No one said it was a witch hunt. The person asked me for screenshots to confirm what I said about the Gm's stance on NN which is very relevant to the topic. I left out the "evidence" so there is no harassment as I know this person is very disliked by a lot of people on OUR server, however if the person was curious as to more context of the issue I was willing to post it to them privately. Do explain how I'm witch hunting. :3 Edit: I do mean that in a joking playful way, as I already stated my stance is neutral on, Eve and everyone else.
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    Last edited by Aoreka; 10-18-2017 at 01:57 PM. Reason: You're not yourself when you're hungry..grab a snickers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoreka View Post
    Did you get hurt when you threw yourself into my conversation? lol. No one said it was a witch hunt. The person asked me for screenshots to confirm what I said about the Gm's stance on NN which is very relevant to the topic. I left out the "evidence" so there is no harassment as I know this person is very disliked by a lot of people on OUR server, however if the personwas curious as to more context of the issue I was willing to post it to them privately. Do explain how I'm witch hunting. :3 Edit: I do mean that in a joking playful way, as I already stated my stance is neutral on, Eve and everyone else.
    Ya, what Aoreka said. PharisHanasaki, you need to understand, I know it is good to have someone keeping an eye on the novice network and upholding the ToS of FFXIV on it (I do at times) but the thing is, eve goes to an extreme end, this is why people revenge kick them CONTENTLY, if they happen to be on in the novice network on a given day (I think today they had it off) They will kick someone out with the smallest of reason, and someone will revenge kick eve for it right after. It is a constant thing, it is not once in a month thing, it is DAILY! sometimes more then one time a day.

    I have no interest in "witch hunt" Eve, I just want them to stop going to extreme ends on what warrants a kick that leads to being hated by 90% of the people on the novice network. Another issue with how eve kicks is done so LATE, (since it is grey area to begin with) The basic flow is like this. Someone says something very minor, Eve debates with them on what should be said in the novice. Eve losses debate (with outsiders coming in when Eve starts that) and kick the person in question out, out of anger of losing said debate, then in return, gets kicked because it was an invalid reason to kick. This is the very flow on the situation that happened in the TC and the GM is responding on.
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 10-18-2017 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoreka View Post
    Sure thing.

    Part 1: https://puu.sh/y0fjY/e9ef498d0b.png
    Part 2: https://puu.sh/y0fkW/626b5ce403.png

    I also have the entire chat log that led to the report if you want, but it will take quite a few screens. I'd rather not though as I don't want Eve to be harassed. If you want it, it will have to be in PM.
    That's... I don't even know what to say, they are basically legitimizing kick wars and "do whatever you want".
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    That's... I don't even know what to say, they are basically legitimizing kick wars and "do whatever you want".
    Thats not new at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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