Feedback Regarding GM Dorxenore (Further Review by Management Recommended)

[Aoreka]

I mean no offense here at all, Eve, as I have nothing personal against you. I have seen you kick people who were wrong but I have also seen you abuse the kick excessively, sometimes without warning, revenge kicks, and just plain not bothering to confirm the context of someone's "speech". I made a report against you 1 time for a very unfair kick, pretty much asking Gm what is right and wrong when we have different dialects of casual speech. Where people grew up, some words are not the same for others, as "b**h" can be used for " HEY BUDDY" "omg girl wut" "are you serious...lol" or how F**k can mean " WOOT" "Sorry I messed up.." "man that was so funny", ETC. I don't think people should be talking about sex in the help channel but as long as it isn't turning into sexual harassment, cybering or someone talking about their pedophile adventures with real children, I think you should save yourself the stress and blacklist. Apparently to Gm it's majority rule. I will post the reply next post.

[Aoreka]

I will post the reply next post.

Here is what the GM said about Novice Network.



"Dear Aoreka,

Thank you for contacting the FINAL FANTASY XIV support desk.

We are sorry to hear that there are differences of opinion on what is deemed to be acceptable in the Novice Network.

Due to the nature of the Novice Network, what is deemed to be acceptable is widely different from World to World. We encourage players to cultivate their World's Novice Network culture and remove Mentors or New Adventurers based on that standard.

As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive, we suggest to temporarily remove them. If the player in question removes another player for a reason that is generally not deemed to be sufficient, it is acceptable to remove them as well.

Thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience caused."

[Aoreka]

As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive

Context: A new player said "F**k yeah I got the minion", to which you threatened them about language when the context was clearly harmless. You did NOT kick this player. You kicked a player who made a joke about it. Then kick another player who protested that kick who did not use any language. You were kicked, came back and kicked 2 others without warning.

In general I appreciate you looking out for the babies and I'm also sorry that someone ended up trolling you or just being gross in chat. Gms clearly have their views on our NN, I encourage you to BL. I have, and always will report anyone I see harassing you or anyone else or legitimately breaking TOS.

[Mycow8me]

I was a part of novice network for like the first few weeks or so then realized giving moderator power to a bunch of kiddos was a really bad idea in the first place and the chat was usually deranged on my server though that may have changed since then... SE should just get some server community organizers from every server to be mods of novice network. Responsible easy going individuals that are good spirited and willing to not do it for money obviously. They would need players for different times of the days though I guess. Most of the nice helpful people aren't even in novice network or using the mentor status from my experience.

[EveK]

USA uses ESRB. The Teen rating is 13+.

[alimdia]

"Dear Aoreka,

Thank you for contacting the FINAL FANTASY XIV support desk.

We are sorry to hear that there are differences of opinion on what is deemed to be acceptable in the Novice Network.

Due to the nature of the Novice Network, what is deemed to be acceptable is widely different from World to World. We encourage players to cultivate their World's Novice Network culture and remove Mentors or New Adventurers based on that standard.

As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive, we suggest to temporarily remove them. If the player in question removes another player for a reason that is generally not deemed to be sufficient, it is acceptable to remove them as well.

Thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience caused."

If it's not asking too much, could you post a screenshot of this reply? If this is true this is a troubling stance they are taking.

[ManuelBravo]

While this conversation does seem unfair it seems you are misunderstanding something. His answers were impartial and gave you options on how to avoid situations like theses. When you play with an online community no one is considered special. NO ONE can be really be told what to do, what to say, or how to act. There are however proper steps that needs to be taken by a company to close an account for violation of their terms of use.

I myself have worked as a GM for several games and while people may not agree as a GM there are certain things that they can't type as much as we want to. IF you want to have a GM take immediate action you must have and quote;

What part of the terms of use that is being violated.

How is it being violated.

When / where it was violated.

If you give them a broad complain with out reference it would be a she a waste of time and will just give you a generic answer.

As you can see by previous responses, examples SE does warn that chat filters may not be in place.

Another thing to consider is what inappropriate language is 13+ with today's society is almost the same as adult. You can always file a formal complain however chances are that if you don't give proper examples, chat logs, ect you would just be branded as some over protective parent or spoiled brat. Unless multiple complains are filed, which to be honest it's better to just black list them than waste your time, you better communicate with others and file a complain around the same time in order to be effective.

Keep in mind that common sense is a dying trait, most people are idiots one way or another, and in business money talks. I f your going to file a complain evidence is all that matters specially when it involves terms of use.

[Aronys]

FFXIV should have the PEGI rating in Germany aswell and in Europe FFXIV has 16 years and older rating.

Still this does not stop kids from playing this game, but SE has intended for this game to be 16 years and older.

Nope, it's 12 in Germany.
At the bottom: https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/
Germany uses USK, not PEGI.
http://www.usk.de/titelsuche/titelsu...6fa8f7c3e3b73d

[EveK]

The report did, of course, include many detailed examples with timestamps and quotes. I am not here to name and shame anyone (give or take the GM named in the post, but this is my only way of providing such feedback - and Square already has access to the ticket with its full details), and I'm definitely not here to repeat that which was too obscene to say in the first place.

[ManuelBravo]

While time stamps were mentioned it's kind of hard to judge on text alone. To be impartial it would be nice to see the screen shots to make sure nothing was omitted. People in forums do tend to go over board with their complains and most are altered.