Feedback Regarding GM Dorxenore (Further Review by Management Recommended)

[SwdVengeance]

Ok, I'm surprised people are seemingly defending the people posting obscene/offensive language in NN. For those uninformed, this is quoted straight from the ToS under "Prohibited Activities":

3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.

Given this, a full on normal report of the person is permissible and advised by SE themselves.

[ElHeggunte]

Ok, I'm surprised people are seemingly defending the people posting obscene/offensive language in NN. For those uninformed, this is quoted straight from the ToS under "Prohibited Activities":

3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.

Given this, a full on normal report of the person is permissible and advised by SE themselves.

That's more them covering their bases than really caring about what's said in chat channels (otherwise the profanity filter wouldn't be optional, and censorship would be hard-coded into chat like some other games do). It may vary by GM, but in general they're just going to tell you to blacklist them, which is a perfectly reasonable response considering that's the entire reason it exists. It's not defending people being "obscene", it's being realistic. SE gave us tools to help deal with disputes and if you refuse to make use of them like the OP that's your own fault.

[SwdVengeance]

That's more them covering their bases than really caring about what's said in chat channels (otherwise the profanity filter wouldn't be optional, and censorship would be hard-coded into chat like some other games do). It may vary by GM, but in general they're just going to tell you to blacklist them, which is a perfectly reasonable response considering that's the entire reason it exists. It's not defending people being "obscene", it's being realistic. SE gave us tools to help deal with disputes and if you refuse to make use of them like the OP that's your own fault.

I get the understandable approach of blacklisting, I do. I wasn't saying that isn't a reasonable approach in combination with the report they made. I understand you're not necessarily defending their actions, but if you're using the fact that blacklist exist as a rational to not report them, then I do have to call your reasoning into question. Not to sway the topic, but you're then boiling it down to "If I don't see it/It doesn't affect me, no reason to concern myself with it." Admittedly, if this was about any other channel other than NN, I probably wouldn't be making this argument. However, I've had a friend quit over the toxicity of NN before. I managed to dissuade him out of it, however NN can often be the first impression of this game people get. While I'm not saying everyone or even many would quit over such a thing, your complicity by simply ignoring the issue can actively hurt the game's community.

I admit, there is a decent portion of information missing from the OP as well, and can't assume the exact circumstances, but people are seemingly attacking the fact he kicked them in an attempt to moderate the channel. If they were really spamming vulgar and obscene things, I fail to see how anyone can fault him for doing so.

[Snow_Princess]

Ok, I'm surprised people are seemingly defending the people posting obscene/offensive language in NN. For those uninformed, this is quoted straight from the ToS under "Prohibited Activities":



Given this, a full on normal report of the person is permissible and advised by SE themselves.

See the problem is you where not there, it was not really cursing or vulgarity (op is exaggerated and i am sure MEANY WILL AGREE to that of who was there) It was just an innuendo, and the thing is, I find that passable because for the groups it is "unfit for" , mainly the age thing, would vaugly understand it or not even care about what is being talking about. So it is not very offensive and the only person in the channel that had an issue with it was Eve, that is why Eve got kicked for the kick abuse, because you can't be kicking people over one person disagreeing with ... chat... normal chat?

If eve would just said nothing, I bet nothing would of happen out of it, but it was just drama provoking.

erp is against the tos if done in public. tells they have 0 control, but erp is against the tos.

Novice network is not regarded as a pure public channel, GMs moderate it like a FC or LS, you really have to go over the top for gms take action on. What was said was not crossing any line, Eve is over excessive in kicking people. However if they where actually doing ERP in the novice, yeah I would have issues on that, not what happened though. I mean I seen someone jokingly making out with an Aetheryte but... I just found that funny. " Oh Aetheryte senpai ... *forget the rest, might of happened when eve was offline cuz no drama happened -.-

Sure thing.

Part 1: https://puu.sh/y0fjY/e9ef498d0b.png
Part 2: https://puu.sh/y0fkW/626b5ce403.png

I also have the entire chat log that led to the report if you want, but it will take quite a few screens. I'd rather not though as I don't want Eve to be harassed. If you want it, it will have to be in PM.

Yeah this is weird, that can just start a kick fest.

Thank you to the 27 and counting people that show their support for this even though I didn't even post it in the right forum. Since there's so much interest and confusion, this may help a little for additional context:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ice-Network%29

I agree consistency is an issue with the GM team but even you have to admit you get a bit excessive and go a bit extreme in your "moderations" I am shocked you didn't try pull kick abuse since you are kicked an awful lot over it. It is so routine now, the reason for kicking Eve Knight is stated " as usual"