Feedback Regarding GM Dorxenore (Further Review by Management Recommended)

[Freyt]

Key word: A reasonable person.

Using the word 'bastard' is different to dropping the C bomb. A reasonable person will not be offended by bastard......but drop the C word and I can almost guarantee a whole lot of people will be offended.

(Australians need not apply).

I find that unreasonable.

The speech is fine so long as it doesn't come across as personal harassment. Excessive kicking from the channel could have been seen as harassment. If it didn't take the first one or two times, then black list and move on. You aren't a moderator strictly speaking. Your word doesn't define the rules of the channel. You aren't there to enforce the rules, especially not those that you came up with.

[Zarabeth]

The game is rated 16+ and the game itself contains mild profanity.

I took that directly from the FFXIV user agreement (English) that is found here

[Rita1989]

[alimdia]

There are certain words that have got people suspended for saying them in shout or party chat, but according to this GM saying the same words in the NN is fine?

The NN should get the same treatment as every other public chat.

[BillyKaplan]

The NN should get the same treatment as every other public chat.

I think the NN should be upheld to a stricter standard, personally. Because it's intended for new players who can more easily be put off from the game if that's one of their first experiences in it, and Mentors, who really should know better.

[Rinuko]

NN should ONLY be for helping new players. Period.

That's my honest opinion

[Laerune]

I think when it comes to the Newcomer Network, the conversations should be held to only helping newcomers. I have nothing aganst profanities, but the Newcomer Network is a chatroom for newcomers, they go there to get answers to their questions and mentors go there to help the newcomers, atleast this was the orignal concept for the channel.

SE has decided that the Newcomer Network has become another chat channel, so I think OP should just blacklist and move on. As much as we disgree with how the Newcomer Network is used right now, aslong as SE is oke with how it is right now, nothing will change. Just dont bother OP, blacklist and move on.

The ToS are what Zarabeth quoted and here in germany ff14 is 12+. That means you have kids in the game and you have to behave yourself acordingly.

FFXIV should have the PEGI rating in Germany aswell and in Europe FFXIV has 16 years and older rating.

Still this does not stop kids from playing this game, but SE has intended for this game to be 16 years and older.

[Aoreka]

I mean no offense here at all, Eve, as I have nothing personal against you. I have seen you kick people who were wrong but I have also seen you abuse the kick excessively, sometimes without warning, revenge kicks, and just plain not bothering to confirm the context of someone's "speech". I made a report against you 1 time for a very unfair kick, pretty much asking Gm what is right and wrong when we have different dialects of casual speech. Where people grew up, some words are not the same for others, as "b**h" can be used for " HEY BUDDY" "omg girl wut" "are you serious...lol" or how F**k can mean " WOOT" "Sorry I messed up.." "man that was so funny", ETC. I don't think people should be talking about sex in the help channel but as long as it isn't turning into sexual harassment, cybering or someone talking about their pedophile adventures with real children, I think you should save yourself the stress and blacklist. Apparently to Gm it's majority rule. I will post the reply next post.

[Aoreka]

I will post the reply next post.

Here is what the GM said about Novice Network.



"Dear Aoreka,

Thank you for contacting the FINAL FANTASY XIV support desk.

We are sorry to hear that there are differences of opinion on what is deemed to be acceptable in the Novice Network.

Due to the nature of the Novice Network, what is deemed to be acceptable is widely different from World to World. We encourage players to cultivate their World's Novice Network culture and remove Mentors or New Adventurers based on that standard.

As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive, we suggest to temporarily remove them. If the player in question removes another player for a reason that is generally not deemed to be sufficient, it is acceptable to remove them as well.

Thank you for your understanding and we apologize for any inconvenience caused."

[Aoreka]

As such, if the majority of the Users deems Eve Knight's standards to be undesirable or disruptive

Context: A new player said "F**k yeah I got the minion", to which you threatened them about language when the context was clearly harmless. You did NOT kick this player. You kicked a player who made a joke about it. Then kick another player who protested that kick who did not use any language. You were kicked, came back and kicked 2 others without warning.

In general I appreciate you looking out for the babies and I'm also sorry that someone ended up trolling you or just being gross in chat. Gms clearly have their views on our NN, I encourage you to BL. I have, and always will report anyone I see harassing you or anyone else or legitimately breaking TOS.