nobody is concerned mages are losing half their spells?

[Alerith]

Read the thread. I've already shown that they can't count as just one, because then you'd very quickly run out of spaces on your bar.

Not necessarily. There is the possibility of a sub-menu within your skill bar. Instead of each spell taking up a slot on your skill bar, you have "Elemental Spells" take up ONE spot on your skill bar. When you press that, another bar comes up with all your elemental nukes. Fire, Blizzard, Aero, etc. This would only take up one actual skill slot.

Then you could have another spot on your skill bar for "Elemental Enfeebles" that operates the same way for Burn, Choke, Rasp, Dia, etc.

That's taken up 2 skill bar slots so far. So you still have 13 slot for job abilities and 10 for cross class abilities.

From a healers perspective, you would have one skill bar slot with an icon for "Healing Magic" and selecting that would bring up a bar with all your HP restoring spells. Cure, Regen, etc.

Another spot on your skill bar would be for "Enhancing Magic" and selecting that would bring up your list of enhancing spells. Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, etc.

[Inaaca]

Not necessarily. There is the possibility of a sub-menu within your skill bar. Instead of each spell taking up a slot on your skill bar, you have "Elemental Spells" take up ONE spot on your skill bar. When you press that, another bar comes up with all your elemental nukes. Fire, Blizzard, Aero, etc. This would only take up one actual skill slot.

Then you could have another spot on your skill bar for "Elemental Enfeebles" that operates the same way for Burn, Choke, Rasp, Dia, etc.

That's taken up 2 skill bar slots so far. So you still have 13 slot for job abilities and 10 for cross class abilities.

From a healers perspective, you would have one skill bar slot with an icon for "Healing Magic" and selecting that would bring up a bar with all your HP restoring spells. Cure, Regen, etc.

Another spot on your skill bar would be for "Enhancing Magic" and selecting that would bring up your list of enhancing spells. Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, etc.

While that would indeed conserve space, what a pain in the ass it would be in the heat of battle to have to open multiple menus just to cast a spell. No thanks.

[Viridiana]

Not necessarily. There is the possibility of a sub-menu within your skill bar. Instead of each spell taking up a slot on your skill bar, you have "Elemental Spells" take up ONE spot on your skill bar. When you press that, another bar comes up with all your elemental nukes. Fire, Blizzard, Aero, etc. This would only take up one actual skill slot.

Then you could have another spot on your skill bar for "Elemental Enfeebles" that operates the same way for Burn, Choke, Rasp, Dia, etc.

That's taken up 2 skill bar slots so far. So you still have 13 slot for job abilities and 10 for cross class abilities.

From a healers perspective, you would have one skill bar slot with an icon for "Healing Magic" and selecting that would bring up a bar with all your HP restoring spells. Cure, Regen, etc.

Another spot on your skill bar would be for "Enhancing Magic" and selecting that would bring up your list of enhancing spells. Protect, Shell, Stoneskin, etc.

While that would indeed conserve space, what a pain in the ass it would be in the heat of battle to have to open multiple menus just to cast a spell. No thanks.

Pretty much this. They seem to be trying to simplify things ("this won't require a manual to understand"). I doubt they'd change it to something so complicated.

[Alerith]

Pretty much this. They seem to be trying to simplify things ("this won't require a manual to understand"). I doubt they'd change it to something so complicated.

Pushing three buttons total instead of two is complicated?

Select spell > Enter
Select spell type > Select Spell > Enter

3 > Enter
1 > 3 > Enter

It's hardly complicated at all.

[darkstarpoet1]

Pushing three buttons total instead of two is complicated?

Select spell > Enter
Select spell type > Select Spell > Enter

3 > Enter
1 > 3 > Enter

It's hardly complicated at all.

you would then also be hitting another to toggle aoe on and off along with re-targeting your target you are casting on. yes, bringing up a debuff/scrolling to which one which is a few clicks there/selecting your target you are casting it on/turning aoe off and on/enter to cast spell is much more complicated when you have less than a second to start casting.

do you remember the reason for curaga to be made? it was because of the constant complaints here that people had too much trouble hitting that one button for aoe off/on. if they had issues with hitting one aoe toggle then they surely won't be able to figure out how to hit 7-8 keys.

edit: i am not saying whatever they plan on putting in will not work, but was just pointing out the issues that already had to be fixed because of bad mages. the best thing people can do now is state their concerns and not argue over anything and wait until the list of spells is released to see if their fears are warranted.