The Zodiac "Saga" has been a terrible experience for me.... It shouldn't be.

[Zfz]

The truth is that different parts of the game is designed for different groups of players. The Relic, first and foremost, is designed as a grind for mostly casual players. It was also designed for people who either like, or don't mind, those grinds.

Tomestone weapons, on the other hand, are designed as a catch-up mechanism and a remedy for bad luck. That is why they are easy to obatin, and they conform to the raiding gear standards.

That's the gist of it anyway. The strength of the Relic series of weapons are designed the way they are for only one reason: so that they are not completely useless.

[Blanchimont]

The problem with the Zodiac weapons was that they were too specific. The rare Fate ones were the most obnoxious ones. I think the endless farming has the potential to make it better, but not enough content is available to contribute to it. If you could do literally any content and it would somehow contribute to it, it would be better. Hopefully, the Stormblood weapons will be like that.

[wereotter]

The problem with the Zodiac weapons was that they were too specific. The rare Fate ones were the most obnoxious ones. I think the endless farming has the potential to make it better, but not enough content is available to contribute to it. If you could do literally any content and it would somehow contribute to it, it would be better. Hopefully, the Stormblood weapons will be like that.

From what I've understood, the Stormblood weapons are supposed to be something else entirely. They heard the feedback from the player base that we hated the crafted items step, and the devs realized that putting that step in encouraged very few people to actually craft and gather and just resulted in gil flowing into the hands of very few players, so they've said it would be removed. I wouldn't be surprised if other steps, like FATE farming might be gutted as well in order to introduce something new. At least that's what I hope.

[Dualblade]

From what I've understood, the Stormblood weapons are supposed to be something else entirely. They heard the feedback from the player base that we hated the crafted items step, and the devs realized that putting that step in encouraged very few people to actually craft and gather and just resulted in gil flowing into the hands of very few players, so they've said it would be removed. I wouldn't be surprised if other steps, like FATE farming might be gutted as well in order to introduce something new. At least that's what I hope.

The SB relic weapons are going to be a part of Eureka. This is also why we aren't getting the weapons in 4.15 since they had to push Eureka back.

[wereotter]

The SB relic weapons are going to be a part of Eureka. This is also why we aren't getting the weapons in 4.15 since they had to push Eureka back.

THANK YOU!!! I've been straining my brain all day to remember the name of that zone!

[ManuelBravo]

Hmmm well at the very least these relics are not as bad as FFXI now there was a grind lol

[Caesar2]

If it didn't take you 1300+ fates to get your 12 ATMA to start the process you don't get to complain about the grind!

[AnnaMolly]

'Member back in the early days of FFXI when it took a whole LS farming twice a week and buying currency for two years or so to get one person a relic weapon? I 'member.

[savageink]

My relic weapon is stuck at the second to last stage because of that annoying crafting step. I either have to get ALL of my crafting classes to 50 with desynth or I have to pay for the garbage on the MB which is totally not a viable option. I just looked the other day and some of those items are over a million gil....and there are eight items. They should add those to a vendor now. At the rate I'm going through levelling crafting I should have them all to 50 in about 3 more years. :P

[Kagatoion]

I THINK the stuff crafted from the desynth materials got added to one tab of another of the GC vendors...but it might just be the HW relic stuff, and not ARR