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  1. #41
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    "Why"?

    Because the writer wanted to make the audience stop sympathizing with the Garleans.

    This is the most straight and honest answer you'll get.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    "Why"?

    Because the writer wanted to make the audience stop sympathizing with the Garleans.

    This is the most straight and honest answer you'll get.
    More the Garlean army as the recent Raid went out of it's way to make sure we understand their general populace isn't all that bad, but I do agree that the writers did go out of their way this time around to spell out the subtext. It's always been there, but now it's on full display.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    "Why"?

    Because the writer wanted to make the audience stop sympathizing with the Garleans.

    This is the most straight and honest answer you'll get.
    5 pages with a handful of questionable replies later- ^this^ is really the answer. In fiction its one of the easiest story elements one can use to show someone/something as unquestionably bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    "Rape happens in the real world"

    but hey if all you all love rape in your stories so much lets just have it happen to men too.

    we can find out raubhan's tragic backstory where he was raped by an uldah noble.

    and meet a cool new character who was forced into sex work against his will.

    why not? if rape is such an important part of showing this Grim Dark World we'll just have it happen to the men just as much.
    You probably didn't intend this reaction, but I absolutely would want that. Especially the Raubahn part. Seeing a major character crumble from PTSD and then get blamed for it and abandoned by their own friends would be superbly emotional. I just want to feel something. Plus, it would help the plot get more complex if rape is used a device to cause a defection to the Garleans.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    5 pages with a handful of questionable replies later- ^this^ is really the answer. In fiction its one of the easiest story elements one can use to show someone/something as unquestionably bad.
    Number One would be, (at least for a Western Audience) showing the Villain harm an innocent dog.

    INSTANTLY makes the audience know the person is evil.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Sorry that the issues women face everyday in every country on earth is ruining your game experience... must be rough for you... funny you don't say the same thing about the killing, general violence, corruption, greed, and ethnic cleansing we see in the game more than the violence against women you have such a huge problem with....
    It's interesting this was upvoted so much because clearly, the point was not understood. I too found this very cliche. The pretty and dumb girl gets sold and abused so she seeks revenge, and now she's evil and ruthless. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone forgives her because 'Oh, she had a sad past. And she's cute'.

    She didn't say she had a problem with it, was merely discussing the character's background and motives.

    They can talk about rape all they want in this game (it won't help the cause though, because people irl won't do shit about it, less someone sitting on a chair playing some videogames), but this particular character for me is super cliche.
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  7. #47
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    If it is a "cliche", it's sadly a cliche from the real world (>_<)
    There are cases like these everyday, even nowadays. It had to be worse in war times.

    Of course I'd love for things to be different. As a female, knowing that this sort of thing happens too often to females makes me sick. But a game reflecting that sad truth isn't bad writing in my opinion; bad writing would be to turn a painful reality into a disney movie where that kind of brutal thing actually never happens or doesn't exist. That's not exactly how war (or even human beings, in all their ugliness) work...

    PS: I don't feel sorry for that character and I don't find her cute. It's regrettable that such things happened to her, but I don't feel sorry for her current grown up self simply because she had a bad past.
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 10-15-2017 at 07:10 PM.

  8. #48
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    Eorzea is the world Antoine Dodson warned us of. "They climbing in your windows..."
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Eorzea is the world Antoine Dodson warned us of. "They climbing in your windows..."
    Thanks for the good laugh xD
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    This ain't Disney
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