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  1. #31
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    I don't want to beat a dead horse nor do I want to troll.....

    first let me start by saying, I will pay for the game, not because I like what they are offering, but because I want to see this game better.

    that being said, billing customers at the current status of the game is a huge mistake and they are going to suffer badly from it.

    Now I started playing since alpha, me and many others gave many feedback about the game back then and how it does not meet FF fans expectation, and they should not release it, we said that in alpha, in closed beta and open beta, but that didn't stop them.

    now me and many others are telling you SE, what you are doing is a mistake, what you need to do is hold on to the current customers you have and attract more, billing should only start when you have new customers coming to your game, and that's when PS3 gamers join the PC gamers, and that's after 2.0.

    billing customers now will do 2 things:
    1- many will leave the game.
    2- some of the people that decided to pay will hammer you with bad reviews about how they pay for a un-finished product.

    writing this, and deep inside I know they will keep going with their plan, they didn't listen to us before so why now?
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  2. #32
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    2- some of the people that decided to pay will hammer you with bad reviews about how they pay for a un-finished product.
    You are aware it's completely voluntary, right? It better be worth it to them, paying and then bitching makes no sense in any possible way imaginable.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heat View Post
    writing this, and deep inside I know they will keep going with their plan, they didn't listen to us before so why now?
    The reason XIV is being overhauled and in such a flipflop state is because they're listening to players, but they can't continue to dump funds into an active MMO and get zero in return. People had a free year to play, it's time to pony up or ship out, the choice is yours and yours alone.
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  4. #34
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    everyone is entitled for his opinion, and I call it as I see it, 1.8 some people came back, others didn't like the change and left, 1.9 same thing happened, 1.2 people would like to see if things changed for the better or not, but they can't since they need to pay.

    who can see the changes? the people that got the game before and decide to stay and see what 1.2 has to offer, what about new players? wait for PS3 or 2.0.

    I log in everyday, play 5-6 hours a day, I see new faces but I also know old faces are leaving, and I don't want to get to the point where you can't group with others because few people are around, its already hard to get a group to do things, and it will get harder after 1.2.

    and where does this leave us? even the people that want to stay won't have groups to do things unless you have an active link, and how many dose?

    not even to mention the gap between the old and the new players.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The reason XIV is being overhauled and in such a flipflop state is because they're listening to players, but they can't continue to dump funds into an active MMO and get zero in return. People had a free year to play, it's time to pony up or ship out, the choice is yours and yours alone.
    And here I thought you'd be worried that FFXIVCore won't have the advertising dollars to sustain itself if the player base shrinks even further. And if it goes under, what title could you use as a trophy to lord over the rest of us?
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

  6. #36
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    We're getting discounted till 2.0 for a "half finished" game as it seems to be said (XIV will never be finished until it dies so this statement makes no sense).

    What more do you want? You can't honestly tell me you expected to play free till 2.0 that is just absolutely laughable.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The reason XIV is being overhauled and in such a flipflop state is because they did not listen to players, but they sold 240k copies of game in return. People had a free year to play a broken game.
    there i fixed that for you.
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    my house is in rebuilding stage. this house is very small and in unpopular area.
    the roof, floors, plumbing, and gas are all broke.
    my landlord fired the original crew. for not completing the job on time
    the new crew comes in and makes all kinds of promises, and shows me pics.
    now for next year i have to wait for them to finish the job.
    should I move to a more popular, bigger house rent it for same price?
    or stay in the part of my house that is not being rebuilt. but still pay same rent as others.

  8. #38
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    there i fixed that for you.
    If you honestly think they haven't been listening to the fan base, there is something significantly wrong with your mental faculties. Zone remapping, Class reforms, Job titles, auto attack, storyline participation requirements, jump, alternate mounts, armor with required levels; all of that is because of player feedback. Agree or disagree with the changes all you want, but claiming they haven't been listening is plain asinine on your part.
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  9. #39
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    The game sold 600k+ copies
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    If you honestly think they haven't been listening to the fan base, there is something significantly wrong with your mental faculties.
    Take your time and re-read that fixed version. The reason ffxiv failed at release was indeed because they did not listen to their testers, be it alpha or beta. The game was not ready, we told them so. They released anyway. The kick in the crotch made them change half of the dev team including the producer and now they listen to us...

    The positive part is that they at least changed their mind, some companies don't learn to listen to their customers till they have no customers left.
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