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  1. #21
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    Tried out SMN myself in the new dungeon last night (Skalla), and it feels pretty good now. Devotion change is A+, button consolidation via replacing Ruin with Ruin III and the mobility buffs under DWT are excellent, and a spammable AOE to make roulettes go faster is the tits.

    Further suggestions: Ruin IV proc replace Ruin III button as well, having to watch the UI for procs kinda sucks. Demi-Bahamut really needs to be stationary, he has 100 range for god's sake he doesn't need to hug my butt constantly. Wyrmwave encouraging me to use Addle randomly doesn't feel good and it would be nice if Wave wasn't based on jamming as many actions as possible into Bahamut window, but instead just a set number of uses or something.

    I'm indifferent on the "let us use Aetherflow moves under DWT" request, but if the devs were to change that I know it's make a lot of other SMNs happy.
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  2. #22
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    Sophia-Mooncat's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Erinys Fury
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Adding my support to the OP's comments. Summoner has been my main since I started the game a long time ago, and I have never abandoned it. It feels very rewarding now.
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  3. #23
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    I'm indifferent on the "let us use Aetherflow moves under DWT" request, but if the devs were to change that I know it's make a lot of other SMNs happy.
    I think SMN is in an awesome spot right now in terms of gameplay! It just needs some extra little QoL fixes like pet responsiveness and it's golden.
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  4. #24
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    Delta041's Avatar
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    F'yahna Mhasi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    I like changes. The buff to tri-bind is something I've wanted for a long time.

    All I need now is for Trail and Flow stacks to be separate again so I can refresh Aetherflow before going into trance like 3.0
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  5. #25
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    RydiaFey's Avatar
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    Warren Warlock
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Really liking it.

    I'd say Bahamut still needs some love. Otherwise the changes flow really well and I think they did a really good job of listening to our feedback.

    Hopefully the rest of the forum won't run at us with pitchforks if we ask for one more thing and that's for Bahamut to stop following us like a hurt puppy! Aaaand maybe make W. Wave an auto attack because it just doesn't FEEL very good. :]

    Edit: also please give aetherflow fat finger immunity i.e grey it out when trance is available. Do it in PvP too. Esp. PvP lol
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    Last edited by RydiaFey; 10-13-2017 at 04:14 AM.

  6. #26
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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I love the changes, it's just that they haven't fixed the rest of the (and more important) major problems which is Demi-Bahamut following you around, Wyrmwave making you use Addle and waiting for Aetherflow for maximum damage, and that the job is still punishing by accidentally pressing Aetherflow when you have Aethertrail Attunement, which discards the Aetherflow stacks and then how you can lose 2 of your Dreadwyrm Aether stacks on death which takes 2 or more minutes to achieve.
    Personally I am fine with Dreadwyrm Trance locking Aetherflow abilities.

    So far the changes are great, it feels better to play than before and my favorite one is probably Tri-Bind.
    I hope more good changes come in the next patch.
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  7. #27
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    I'm still not happy with it, but I'll put that aside to at least say these were a step in the right direction. I hope that this is only the first of what's to come, and that SE continues to fix their design and numbers going forward.
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    Petition Thread for "Playable Loporrits": https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436512-Make-them-Playable-You-Cowards
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    Mechanics are Aesthetics. Graphics don't make interesting gameplay.

  8. #28
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    ElonMuskForPrez's Avatar
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    Character
    Elon Musk-
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 53
    OMG 4.1 SUMMONER BEST SUMMONER

    That DWT insta cast ruin 3
    That 3s summon
    That resize bahamut
    That Ruin 4 insta cast
    THAT RUIN 3 MP REDUCTION
    omgomgomgomgomgomgomomgomgomgomg LOVE IT SO MUCH OMG
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  9. #29
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    I'm still not happy with it, but I'll put that aside to at least say these were a step in the right direction. I hope that this is only the first of what's to come, and that SE continues to fix their design and numbers going forward.
    Agree with Grimoire-M and Dinnertime's general sense that things are somewhat better but should not stop where they are now.

    Imo smn is certainly not in the best place is ever been, (not at all...) and they still need to tweak the job to become even as enjoyable as it was before and useful dps wise.

    Will keep it hung up for now but definately hope they continue to fix the job and add adjustments to make smn fun and still rewarding/useful again.

    keep up the good changes SE!!
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  10. #30
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    Draxxion's Avatar
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    Draco'li Tayuun
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    They listened, but it still needs work. Bahamuts AI and the Ruin 4 change to replace Ruin 2 to just name two that others have discussed. The changes are good step forward, but SMN still needs more fixed.
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